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Re:‘Better Yield on 5nm Than 7nm’: TSMC Update on Defect Rat... by an_opabinia on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @11:09AM (#24272123)
Because it isn’t clear if it matters that much at all. You are using devices with larger transistors than what TSMC is shipping right now. If it was a 14nm Intel chip in your iPhone it wouldn’t matter that much, your phone was shipping 14nm chips a few years ago and you still bought one. People are still using those 3 year old phones and by all indications the old phone use trend is accelerating.

However it is utterly inconceivable that anyone would “go back” to using some old social media platform.

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Re:‘Better Yield on 5nm Than 7nm’: TSMC Update on Defect Rat... by bluedino on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @11:21AM (#24272251)
>> However it is utterly inconceivable that anyone would “go back” to using some old social media platform.

I haven’t reacted my compuserve account, but I’m fine using email, IRC, phpBB, mailing lists...

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Re:‘Better Yield on 5nm Than 7nm’: TSMC Update on Defect Rat... by an_opabinia on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @11:40AM (#24272471)
E-Mail, IRC, forum software, mailing lists aren't at all comparable to Facebook. They do very different things.

I was really talking about, for example, Vine. You'd rather use TikTok than Vine. There might not actually be any social networks from late 2016 no one uses today that I've heard of, so it's hard to give an example that looks back to when 14nm was the typical node size for phones. Which is sort of my point, it is in some strict sense of the word literally inconceivable to go back. Whereas I remember what an iPhone 7 was like, and it's not that big of a change.

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Re:‘Better Yield on 5nm Than 7nm’: TSMC Update on Defect Rat... by therealx on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @07:32PM (#24277495)
I don't know if you did it in purpose to make a point, but vine is gone, isn't it?
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Re:‘Better Yield on 5nm Than 7nm’: TSMC Update on Defect Rat... by Pandabob on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @11:15AM (#24272202)
I'm no expert but surely fast chips still matter in stuff like AI? Although, one could argue that modern AI hasn't had a huge impact yet.

Anyway, my point is that having faster and more energy efficient chips would make the training of stuff like GPT-3 cheaper.

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