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Re:Coronavirus: Germany puts on crowded concerts to study risks by jacquesm on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @10:13AM (#24271527)
Experimenting on humans is considered highly unethical. Studies like this are rare for a very good reason, looking back through history we have realized that such experiments when reviewed at a later date almost always turned out to be not in the best interest of the subjects of the tests.
Re:Coronavirus: Germany puts on crowded concerts to study risks by danenania on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @10:19AM (#24271599)
I agree that experimenting on humans is unethical. Actually, let's put that a little more strongly... it's fucking evil.

That said, people are going to congregate in groups, including large groups, no matter what any government says or does. It's not something governments can realistically prevent. A varying but significant percentage of the population of any country will simply do as they wish regardless of the risk to themselves or others.

So if they're going to do it anyway, shouldn't we at least learn something from it?

Re:Coronavirus: Germany puts on crowded concerts to study risks by darkerside on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @08:16PM (#24277774)
And if it's in the best interests of society at large, shouldn't we have some mechanism by which to learn?
Re:Coronavirus: Germany puts on crowded concerts to study risks by manquer on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @11:47AM (#24272538)
You are right , none of the human experiments or eugenics were done by regimes that did not have ulterior motives .

however as thought experiment let us say if you can develop a safe vaccine by killing hundred people and save millions , should you do it ?

Should I develop a self driving AI to choose life of child over dozen people Adults ?

These are not easy questions to answer while the first may not happen , the second scenario is not far off

Re:Coronavirus: Germany puts on crowded concerts to study risks by jacquesm on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @12:41PM (#24273198)
Ethics and utilitarian arguments tend to not go together very well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilitarianism