Re:Please read the paper before you comment
by C4stor on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @05:31AM
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[1] says "Craving and chewing ice (pagophagia) is often associated with iron deficiency,", not what you claimed which is the opposite.
As far as I can see, there's no indication on this page as to how frequently iron deficiency leads to ice chewing.
Re:Please read the paper before you comment
by afarrell on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @06:16PM
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> which is the opposite
Huh? Are you saying that my source claims that chewing ice causes anemia?
Re:Please read the paper before you comment
by C4stor on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @10:01AM
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No ^^
Your source says the chewing ice is a known symptom of anemia, but does not say how prevalent this symptom is in anemia-affected people.
So from that source you can't conclude that anemia "often" leads to chewing ice, it may very well be quite rare.
Abstractly, "A is often a consequence B" does not logically goes to "B often leads to A".
To use an extreme exemple, crossing paths with polar bears (chewing ice) is generally linked with dieing (anemia), but death is quite rarely caused by crossing paths with polar bears.
Re:Please read the paper before you comment
by afarrell on Saturday August 29, 2020 @01:45PM
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Okay....yes. Yes that is a correct statement about logic.
It also seems to miss the central point of my metaphor.
Re:Please read the paper before you comment
by afarrell on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @04:15AM
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For the curious I am in column A, occasionally column D, and very recently column C along with much of humanity.
And yes, I am claiming that a lot of feminist twitter is in column B. They themselves have been quite explicit about that.
I've noticed that when i'm bored or switched off at work, i'm more likely to go on Twitter and start arguments with people i don't know. That usually makes me unhappy, which makes me more switched off at work!
(epistemic status: I am 100% projecting here. Maybe I'm broadly right though)
A person with an iron deficiency, will often have an urge to chew ice [1]. Ice does not have iron or help you absorb iron -- but brains are weird.
There are an awful lot of people who are lonely and want the sort of emotional and intellectual connection that they'd normally get comes from sitting by a fireside doing chores for hours. It takes effort and vulnerability to make friends with whom you can have 2-hours-long chats. It requires planning and intentionally-directing attention to maintain those relationships. Those who fail to plan and execute those actions will reach out in weird ways to try to meet that need. These will disproportionately be people who:
A. Struggle to sustain attention long enough to plan and execute what they really intend.
B. Fear that interactions with new people will end up with them assaulted, infected, or dead.
C. Feel trapped in some situation and unable to plan a way out.
D. Struggle to form an intellectual connection during opportunities for deep social interaction.
E. Have been in a situation where A-D was true and are falling into old habits.
I posit that the intellectual masturbation of people on twitter or other forums is a symptom of an unmet hunger for real intellectual connection with other humans.
[1] https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/iron-deficien...