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Re:Ten countries kept out Covid, but did they win? by joshuahughes on Monday August 24, 2020 @04:19AM (#24258480)
Why the extreme response? Thousands and thousands of folks here in the UK are losing their jobs and therefore their homes. I assume the same thing is happening elsewhere. We have safety nets, but payouts are often nowhere near enough to match income that’s been lost. It’s a real disappointment to me that HN has decided there’s only one right way to talk about the Covid response, and every other point of view is idiotic or evil. Whatever happened to nuance?
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Re:Ten countries kept out Covid, but did they win? by kungato on Monday August 24, 2020 @04:35AM (#24258568)
Maybe the uk is not socialist enough
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Re:Ten countries kept out Covid, but did they win? by joshuahughes on Monday August 24, 2020 @06:54AM (#24259398)
The measures that the UK government put in place are impressive, but they’ve pushed the nation’s debt to more than £2trillion. There’s no escaping the fact that we’ll be paying for these measures for generations.

This is the problem with a socialist solution. We can make things ‘fair’ now, but SOMEONE, at some point in the future, has to pay. Is it really fair that the bill for this falls on future generations? They‘re likely to still be paying off OUR debt in 50 years time. What happens if they have their own ‘Covid‘ before the bill is paid? They’ll already be on the back foot financially.

I don’t resent us helping folks now. But I do resent what it means for my kids, and their kids, and so on.

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Re:Ten countries kept out Covid, but did they win? by thesizeofa on Monday August 24, 2020 @04:20AM (#24258492)
Nuance is welcome - I for one am proud of paying the HMRC to help people pay for electricity, food and shelter. The situation is not great in the UK either, thanks to a government that ignored science, but its far better than in the US.
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Re:Ten countries kept out Covid, but did they win? by i_am_proteus on Monday August 24, 2020 @04:30AM (#24258537)
While there are many metrics of the pandemic's, including health, GDP, and unemployment, it's interesting to note, in light of this comment, that the UK per-capita death rate is currently about 20% higher than the US per-capita death rate from COVID-19.[0]

[0]https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deat...

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Re:Ten countries kept out Covid, but did they win? by sh461 on Monday August 24, 2020 @04:38AM (#24258596)
Also good to point out that the UK is about 8 times more densely populated than the US.
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Re:Ten countries kept out Covid, but did they win? by Pyramus on Monday August 24, 2020 @04:57AM (#24258710)
While your link compares confirmed deaths due to Covid-19, it seems that this effect remains even when you look at excess deaths [1].

However, the US is still in the midst of the pandemic, and I expect the US to catch up on this lamentable metric.

[1] https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/07/15/tracking...

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