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Re:Ketamine that's injected during arrests draws new scrutiny by kevingadd on Sunday August 23, 2020 @09:32AM (#24251795)
Of course, the definition of "lawful arrest" is pretty flexible these days and can seemingly include arrests that are blatantly unlawful, like some cops deciding to assault a random passerby on the street because they don't like the look of them or are unhappy about legal conduct like photography. Is it okay to resist under those circumstances? According to a judge or a police officer, probably not, but at the end of the day you'd probably win the case. If you survive.
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Re:Ketamine that's injected during arrests draws new scrutiny by p0llard on Sunday August 23, 2020 @09:38AM (#24251852)
> According to a judge or a police officer, probably not

I'd naively hope that a judge wouldn't side with a police officer here, but I think the fact that resisting arrest is inherently criminal is a pretty big flaw in the US legal system.

I live in a jurisdiction [1] where resisting arrest is not criminalised in the same sense as the US, and the idea that a police officer could unlawfully arrest you and then immediately have lawful grounds if you resisted is very alien to me.

[1] : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resisting_arrest#England_and_W...

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Re:Ketamine that's injected during arrests draws new scrutiny by projektfu on Sunday August 23, 2020 @11:07AM (#24252422)
Since the '70s it feels like law enforcement (and juries to some extent) are informed by two movies much more than the Constitution and case law: Dirty Harry and Death Wish.
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Re:Ketamine that's injected during arrests draws new scrutiny by non-entity on Sunday August 23, 2020 @11:38AM (#24252619)
I saw a interesting clip on TV a while back where they played several clips of various popular police dramas in which the main characters use wildly illegal or unconstitutional tricks to get confessions from criminals. Things like physically assaulting them while contained and. turning off cameras in interrogation rooms to do so. The point it was trying to make was that this "desensitized" people to police violence. Of course, the criminals in the clips were things like child predators, serial killers, etc. so it was all justified.
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Re:Ketamine that's injected during arrests draws new scrutiny by sudosysgen on Sunday August 23, 2020 @02:12PM (#24253933)
https://youtu.be/MF--2o71w44

This is a pretty good video analysing law enforcement and how it got to become the way it is through the analysis of Dirty Harry.

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Re:Ketamine that's injected during arrests draws new scrutiny by projektfu on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @09:11PM (#24278037)
Interesting presentation
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