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Re:Ketamine that's injected during arrests draws new scrutiny by qchris on Sunday August 23, 2020 @01:16AM (#24249701)
I hope I'm not not regurgitating false information (I'm finding it difficult to find a reputable primary source, since there's a lot of clearly pro-ketamine sites), but I was under the impression that one of the reasons that ketamine has been used both in people and in applications like as a horse tranquilizer is that it's safe dosage range is considerably wide, presenting some margin of error over similar drugs.

Obviously it's more than he should have been given (and tbh am pretty uncomfortable with it being given here at all), but my decidedly non-expert opinion (and the official autopsy statement that the "ketamine in McClain's blood was at 'tolerable levels' ") is that there's all sorts of red flags about this situation.

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Re:Ketamine that's injected during arrests draws new scrutiny by jdietrich on Sunday August 23, 2020 @02:38AM (#24250070)
7-10mg/kg will cause unconsciousness, and is dangerous without CLOSE airway monitoring.

Just barely dangerous. You might see a bit of transient respiratory depression, but the risk of respiratory arrest or clinically significant hypoxia is very low even in an out-of-hospital setting. We have case reports of paediatric patients receiving as much as 50mg/kg without significant ill effect.

https://sci-hub.tw/https://doi.org/10.1016/S0196-0644(99)800...

Re:Ketamine that's injected during arrests draws new scrutiny by sneak on Sunday August 23, 2020 @08:21AM (#24251369)
I think perhaps you assume empty stomach, such as in a normal setting. Those doses are puke probability 1.0 range, which is lifethreatening if the person is unconscious and unmonitored.

Ketamine doesn’t really depress respiration that much. If the airway is physically obstructed, however, because nobody had their eye on him...

Re:Ketamine that's injected during arrests draws new scrutiny by GordonS on Sunday August 23, 2020 @09:20AM (#24251714)
It's probably quite dangerous in this kind of setting though, where the person has likely already been beaten, tasered and choked.
Re:Ketamine that's injected during arrests draws new scrutiny by anon9001 on Sunday August 23, 2020 @02:07AM (#24249938)
https://erowid.org/chemicals/ketamine/ketamine_dose.shtml

My goodness that's a lot of ketamine.

A "strong" recreational dose would be about 1mg/kg. 2.5mg/kg and the person is anesthetized.