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Re:Degoogle: Cutting Google out of your life by jeffbee on Saturday August 22, 2020 @11:20PM (#24249257)
> selfhosting surely is the superior solution.

You go on to partly refute this, but not strongly enough. Self-hosting is clearly inferior in major objective measures: availability, durability, and security. Unless you spend all of your time managing your personal storage solution, self-hosting will be far inferior in these respects, and probably also in cost if a true accounting of time is included.

Re:Degoogle: Cutting Google out of your life by Sebb767 on Sunday August 23, 2020 @05:56PM (#24255608)
> Self-hosting is clearly inferior in major objective measures: availability, durability, and security.

I'd not go as far. You can have your setup behind a VPN on a high port, go for distributed storage (for example at your home and at your parents) and be rather secure with a stable, auto-updated distribution. Cold backups could be an encrypted blob in a cloud or a tape somewhere.

Now, of course this needs quite some upfront investment in time and money; without a solid setup, I fully agree that the cloud is superior (unless your prefer your data lost over read by the NSA).

Other than that, it mostly boils down to risk management: A third-party hacker might have an easier time with your network than Google or Dropbox, but being script-kiddie save is not that hard [0], so it needs to be someone with time and skill. TLAs can't simply subpoena your data, so it might be harder for them - unless your home network is setup badly [1] or they're willing to possibly burn a zero-day. Your day-to-day ad agency is not going to lay hands on your data. It really boils down to what aspect you optimize for; given the grandparent, I assumed it to be privacy and therefore selfhosting to be probably better. But I should've been clearer on that :)

[0] Yes, mistakes happen, but big corporations have also been hacked with trivial exploits, so let's call it even.

[1] This also poses a danger to your login data, though, so the Cloud security team does not help either.

Re:Degoogle: Cutting Google out of your life by wizzwizz4 on Sunday August 23, 2020 @06:56AM (#24251043)
Not so.

Availability: Raspberry Pi plus USB battery pack is more available than the Internet, since when my home power's down my Internet connection goes.

Durability: Have you ever heard of a Raspberry Pi dying?

Security:

  sudo apt install unattended-upgrades
  echo "0 4 * * * reboot" | sudo tee -a /etc/crontab
And all the functionality's available through Nextcloud. It's easier to set up than a Facebook account, and easier to maintain than a Google account.
Re:Degoogle: Cutting Google out of your life by chongli on Sunday August 23, 2020 @09:21AM (#24251721)
This is assuming you don’t leave home. If you travel a lot, self-hosting on your residential internet connection is not going to be a very good experience.
Re:Degoogle: Cutting Google out of your life by kodt on Sunday August 23, 2020 @11:20AM (#24252494)
When your house burns down?
Re:Degoogle: Cutting Google out of your life by reaperducer on Sunday August 23, 2020 @02:03PM (#24253856)
Your house is less likely to burn down than Google is to cancel a service you use.