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Re:Apple apologizes to WordPress, won’t force the free app t... by bloblaw on Saturday August 22, 2020 @09:28PM (#24248790)
> [..] and its monopolistic anti-competitive practices,

iOS owns 25% of the market. How is that a monopoly? You might not like their policies, but as you mention, you have a choice to move to a competitor with a vastly larger market share.

> I'm better off turning to the Play Store or one of the many other app stores that can be used on Android devices.

Doesn't this demonstrate that the Apple AppStore isn't a monopoly? That you have a clear alternative with 74% market share.

> I'd like to see regulation that forces Apple and Google to allow any and all app stores on their devices,

...but why would they do that? There is healthy market competition between Apple and Google. I'm old, so I remember when Windows dominated everything. That was 2007 (or '98 if you wanna talk IE anti-trust case). 13 years later and Microsoft has 0 market share in mobile devices. In another 13 years it is likely a new competitor could supplant the Google and Apple dominance.

reference: https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/worldwide

Re:Apple apologizes to WordPress, won’t force the free app t... by partiallypro on Saturday August 22, 2020 @09:31PM (#24248807)
a) Global market share is irrelevant, show US share, which is about 51/49

b) Apple makes up the plurality of all store revenues, despite having a smaller install base both globally and in the US.

c) You can display monopolistic/duopoly behavior without having 100% of the market.

Re:Apple apologizes to WordPress, won’t force the free app t... by bloblaw on Saturday August 22, 2020 @09:43PM (#24248860)
a) It's an opinion that global market share is irrelevant, but I will report the fact that Apple has 58% USA market share.

b) source?

c) But can Apple be a monopoly with 58% of the market and a trillion dollar competitor with 41% of that market...and 75% control of the global market?

A question for the courts, for sure, but it certainly isn't obvious to me.

reference: https://gs.statcounter.com/vendor-market-share/mobile/united...

Re:Apple apologizes to WordPress, won’t force the free app t... by partiallypro on Monday August 24, 2020 @02:51PM (#24264033)
Apple users spend 80% more on apps than Android users, and that's using global numbers which makes the number even more staggering.

https://fueled.com/blog/app-store-vs-google-play/#:~:text=Ap...

https://www.statista.com/chart/14590/app-downloads-and-consu...

Re:Apple apologizes to WordPress, won’t force the free app t... by yzmtf2008 on Saturday August 22, 2020 @10:09PM (#24248988)
b) isn't it fair then that Apple charges a premium for access to a better market segment?
Re:Apple apologizes to WordPress, won’t force the free app t... by scarface74 on Saturday August 22, 2020 @10:04PM (#24248963)
Ok so when was 49% considered a “monopoly”. Can you name one incident in case law where that was the case?
Re:Apple apologizes to WordPress, won’t force the free app t... by ardit33 on Sunday August 23, 2020 @12:01AM (#24249416)
it is a defacto 'duopoly', or an informal cartel... plenty of laws around it if you are not too lazy to google them...
Re:Apple apologizes to WordPress, won’t force the free app t... by scarface74 on Sunday August 23, 2020 @12:15AM (#24249469)
Words Mean Things.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/cartel.asp

“ A cartel is an organization created from a formal agreement between a group of producers of a good or service to regulate supply in order to regulate or manipulate prices. In other words, a cartel is a collection of otherwise independent businesses or countries that act together as if they were a single producer and thus can fix prices for the goods they produce and the services they render, without competition.”

Do you have any evidence that Apple and Google are conspiring illegally to set prices? Are they talking to each other to agree on price?

“Informal cartel” has no legal meaning.

Re:Apple apologizes to WordPress, won’t force the free app t... by SCLeo on Saturday August 22, 2020 @09:33PM (#24248818)
He/she meant monopoly over iOS software market, not over the entire smart phone market.