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Re:Why Can't Developers Estimate Time? by bartonfink on Friday April 08, 2011 @10:32AM (#2423948)
A serious attempt to provide a precise, correct answer to the ? "What do I really want done?"
Re:Why Can't Developers Estimate Time? by diegob on Friday April 08, 2011 @10:49AM (#2424007)
So things like prototyping, UML, use cases, and Agile were not a "serious attempt" to answer that? I think it's also unwise to tell your manager "it'll be done when it's done."
Re:Why Can't Developers Estimate Time? by silvestrov on Friday April 08, 2011 @11:08AM (#2424085)
UML is a description of the engine. It doesn't answer: "do we need our own transportation device instead of taking a taxi?"
Re:Why Can't Developers Estimate Time? by ThomPete on Friday April 08, 2011 @11:05AM (#2424071)
You know there is a saying in the creative industry when project managers come knocking on your door.

"You want it know, or when it's done?"

My personal experience is that most deadlines are primarily perceptual.

Re:Why Can't Developers Estimate Time? by jdavid on Friday April 08, 2011 @11:36AM (#2424208)
I think an under appreciated gift Apple has given the world is the patience to provide something when it's done, vs. possible.
Re:Why Can't Developers Estimate Time? by ThomPete on Friday April 08, 2011 @12:03PM (#2424359)
Ohh Apple is on a completely different planet.

They follow the principle of "The best way to predict the future is to invent it"

so yes you are totally right about that.

Re:Why Can't Developers Estimate Time? by anthonyb on Friday April 08, 2011 @11:22AM (#2424156)
Largely those are things done by developers, not by the business. Perhaps in cases where the business is on board with them (eg. Agile and rapid iterations), but mostly they'd rather handwave and hope for the best.