News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:WordPressiOS Locked by App Store by dgellow on Friday August 21, 2020 @05:46PM (#24239206)
Unless you’re YouTube
Re:WordPressiOS Locked by App Store by ffpip on Friday August 21, 2020 @06:56PM (#24239756)
Every app can do this. They just can't say that it is cheaper on the website.
Re:WordPressiOS Locked by App Store by djxfade on Friday August 21, 2020 @06:16PM (#24239442)
Media streaming services "only" pay a 15% fee on IAP
Re:WordPressiOS Locked by App Store by briandear on Friday August 21, 2020 @06:59PM (#24239789)
How much are credit card fees? Chargebacks? Fraud? Server costs to host your app and updates? The shopping cart/private infrastructure? You actually get some value from those percentages, but few people actually run the numbers.
Re:WordPressiOS Locked by App Store by NavinF on Friday August 21, 2020 @08:34PM (#24240486)
2.9% is the highest you'll pay to accept cards unless you're in a high risk category. And even cheaper with volume

Fraud happens with any payment provider including Apple.

You don't have to pay extra for shopping cart infrastructure if you use Stripe or similar

Re:WordPressiOS Locked by App Store by wolco on Friday August 21, 2020 @09:52PM (#24240910)
That's stripe rate. You will pay higher elsewhere.
Re:WordPressiOS Locked by App Store by SahAssar on Saturday August 22, 2020 @05:25AM (#24242900)
There are others with similar prices. Adyen: https://www.adyen.com/pricing and Braintree: https://www.braintreepayments.com/se/braintree-pricing for example.
Re:WordPressiOS Locked by App Store by NavinF on Sunday August 23, 2020 @06:28AM (#24250920)
Only if you choose a provider that charges above market rate :)

IIRC, PayPal has offered 2.9% for over a decade

Re:WordPressiOS Locked by App Store by briandear on Saturday August 22, 2020 @02:01AM (#24242001)
Where do you host your shopping cart? Your download server? “Using Stripe” doesn’t build your system. Stripe isn’t a standalone product. You have to have a developer to run and maintain your system. You have to pay server costs as well. And customer support costs dealing with payments and download and install issues.

And with fraud on Apple, you are never affected directly. For example, a chargeback on Stripe costs you $20, unless you win. If you are doing any sort of volume, that is not only expensive, but time consuming — you have to defend your case. You never touch any of that with Apple. At the very least, you need a developer to both build and “run” your store and all of its associated infrastructure.

Re:WordPressiOS Locked by App Store by tick_tock_tick on Friday August 21, 2020 @07:47PM (#24240114)
~3% or less.
Re:WordPressiOS Locked by App Store by zaroth on Friday August 21, 2020 @11:51PM (#24241389)
~3% plus some fixed transaction fee.

So for low dollar amount charges, like a $1.00 app purchase, the transaction fee can be > 30% (e.g. 2.9% + $0.30 on Stripe).

Re:WordPressiOS Locked by App Store by briandear on Saturday August 22, 2020 @02:06AM (#24242034)
So selling an App for a dollar using stripe, you get $0.67. With the App Store, you get $0.70.

And for that stripe fee you still have to have your own store, download infrastructure, and website to sell it on. A website that you also have to build, maintain, and market. And you have to deal with chargebacks and customer support during the buying process.

Re:WordPressiOS Locked by App Store by romanoderoma on Saturday August 22, 2020 @11:22AM (#24244713)
Right, but that stops there

At 1.2$ you already earn more then the Apple Store.

    $ 1.0 Apple: 0.7 Stripe: 0.671
    $ 1.1 Apple: 0.77 Stripe: 0.7681
    $ 1.2 Apple: 0.84 Stripe: 0.8652
So just make it 1.49 and you are good (you'll earn a full 10% more than with Apple)

Anyway even at 0.99 price tag (I think Apple doesn't allow 1$) it only 4.5% less, on a million unit sold the difference would be about 31,710 dollars (693,000 VS 661,290).