Re:Telegram messaging app proves crucial to Belarus protests
by lrem on Friday August 21, 2020 @06:17PM
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What kind of a statistical bias would explain having 1 million Belariusian phone numbers claiming having voted for a candidate, that officially received around 0.5 million votes total?
Re:Telegram messaging app proves crucial to Belarus protests
by brain5ide on Saturday August 22, 2020 @01:57AM
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Adulthood necessary to vote could be one?
Re:Telegram messaging app proves crucial to Belarus protests
by gbrown on Friday August 21, 2020 @04:26PM
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You’re ignoring the finite population and the actual numbers involved.
Re:Telegram messaging app proves crucial to Belarus protests
by kube-system on Friday August 21, 2020 @04:52PM
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It is simultaneously possible for the results to have statistical issues while also being good enough to provide utility as evidence for drawing some conclusions. You can both be right.
Re:Telegram messaging app proves crucial to Belarus protests
by gbrown on Friday August 21, 2020 @07:57PM
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Indeed
Re:Telegram messaging app proves crucial to Belarus protests
by thereare5lights on Friday August 21, 2020 @04:33PM
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What does that have to do with the fact that the number of telegram users that voted for the opposition candidate exceeds the official number of voters that voted for the opposition candidate?
Re:Telegram messaging app proves crucial to Belarus protests
by vbezhenar on Friday August 21, 2020 @06:05PM
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Phone number is not an unique identifier. There are plenty of people who use multiple phone numbers.
While I don't believe in Belarus official results, that Telegram evidence is not a real evidence. It's just a hint.
Re:Telegram messaging app proves crucial to Belarus protests
by asutekku on Friday August 21, 2020 @06:24PM
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I very highly doubt around double the amount of ”official” voters would have a second belarussian number.
Re:Telegram messaging app proves crucial to Belarus protests
by tripzilch on Saturday August 22, 2020 @04:34AM
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Also, they have to decide to actually use that second number to cheat in a Telegram poll significantly more often than people of the other party.
Otherwise you can only draw your error bars equally in both ways at once, and then they need to be pretty large before the numbers stop saying what they clearly are saying.
Telegram users are not going to pass any "Randomness" scrutiny. For all we know, Telegram User A asks Telegram User B to take the poll, etc. That's not random, and can introduce all sorts of statistical bias.