Re:Telegram messaging app proves crucial to Belarus protests
by Integer on Friday August 21, 2020 @04:40PM
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>So their operators claim. But it's not clear why that would be true and I haven't seen any numbers to demonstrate it either. Have you?
Telegram had to survive Russia's attempt to ban it, so it evolved a number of strategies: using push notifications to deliver IP-adresses of not-yet-blocked servers, using socks-proxies, the evolution of the MTProto Proxy encrypted protocol, and finally resorting to steganography to mimic ordinary https traffic, thus evading the DPI.
The attempts of the state censorship agency to block the telegram servers were hilarious to watch: at one point they had 0.5% of the IPv4 address space banned, and broke a lot of stuff (AWS, Google, DigitalOcean, OVH, etc). Telegram was still working, of course.
Re:Telegram messaging app proves crucial to Belarus protests
by maqp on Saturday August 22, 2020 @04:37AM
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Belarus isn't Russia however, they can most likely take down a lot more of the internet just to "bring order to chaos".
The IP-address delivery via push notification was a nice idea, if they'd only be on that level with their E2EE deployment.
Re:Telegram messaging app proves crucial to Belarus protests
by ClumsyPilot on Friday August 21, 2020 @03:20PM
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Of course you are not going to see them if you are not looking. Maybe you could loo at have literally an entire country where it's the only messaging app still working. And previous attempt to block it in Russia.
Yes, unencrypted social features that could just as easily be serviced by any other social networking app which hasn't been explicitly banned yet (and that could happen to Telegram at any time).
> It's that Telegram operates under harsher network conditions.
So their operators claim. But it's not clear why that would be true and I haven't seen any numbers to demonstrate it either. Have you?