Re:How the pandemic might play out in 2021 and beyond
by JoeAltmaier on Friday August 21, 2020 @09:31AM
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That sounds like 'winning'. Include the averted damage caused by unrestricted geometric growth in infections. Which is what we avoided.
Sure its been tough. But not as tough as millions dead.
Re:How the pandemic might play out in 2021 and beyond
by NoOneNew on Friday August 21, 2020 @09:37AM
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No... the models were wrong in January, along with the constant fear mongering. The usa did not have 80% social distancing compliance. It was far less.
Next part, is it still winning if more people commit suicide due to the countermeasures than the amount of deaths of covid? Or are you someone that believes less humans is good all around?
I get hindsight will always be 20/20. But when do we all stop with the political fear mongering and adjust actions? Theres this weird moral high horse mentality in folks who are uber fearful of contracting covid.
Re:How the pandemic might play out in 2021 and beyond
by JoeAltmaier on Friday August 21, 2020 @01:17PM
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Look here:
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.h...
Click on US on the left; look at Daily Cases on the lower right. That's what we did - stopped geometric growth. Never mind models.
People aren't poo-pooing the lockdowns because it's the chic thing to do. The impact is becoming worse than the virus itself. The WHO in January 2020 said with 80% compliance in social distancing and hygiene, the USA will have 2mil deaths by around july/august... yea, compliance was no where that high.
This was all about flattening the curve so hospitals weren't overloaded at once, which was fair. We are past that. So much so, hospitals in the usa have been shutting down in summer because they haven't been able to fill beds. Something like this should have been able to keep them operating for longer if they were at constant capacity.
I've said it before, 1 death is 1 too many. But at the same time, I dont see victory when the global society lives in perpetual fear and hardship either and decides to just kill themselves, literally.
Right now global death numbers, covid doesn't make the top 10 causes of death in the world. You are statistically more likely to die of a diarrhea related illness than of covid. No one cries over the 2mil people, every year, dying of that. Which for the most part, is extremely preventable if the world community actually gave a shit.