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Re:Rideshare operations are being suspended in California by crazygringo on Thursday August 20, 2020 @02:40PM (#24226898)
With employees, you can't rely on variable supply and demand pricing to ensure the most drivers are there at peak times -- instead, you have to do it through scheduling instead.

And it's not so much anti-moonlighting as not being able to work for multiple companies at the same time (hour). Right now, a driver often is waiting for both Lyft and Uber riders. If they're an hourly employee, they obviously can't do that anymore.

So no, none of this is mandated, but it's the only way a business could operate.

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Re:Rideshare operations are being suspended in California by mcguire on Thursday August 20, 2020 @07:55PM (#24230408)
Sure, you can use demand pricing. Offer the employee minimum wage or the commissions from rides, whichever is greater.

Ah, you say, but what about them being "on the clock" while not actually being willing to drive? The same thing that happens if they turn down a Lyft ride because they're driving an Uber customer: you fire them. And possibly charge them with fraud.

From what I've read here, it seems like all of the "only way a business could operate" responses are based on Uber or Lyft propaganda.

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Re:Rideshare operations are being suspended in California by jiveturkey on Thursday August 20, 2020 @02:57PM (#24227187)
I guess you've never heard of being on-call? Tech and healthcare have very well established demand supply systems. Some mechanical service sectors as well - tow trucks, infrastructure repair.
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Re:Rideshare operations are being suspended in California by JamesBarney on Thursday August 20, 2020 @03:01PM (#24227256)
I don't know anyone who is paid to be on call at two different employers simultaneously.
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Re:Rideshare operations are being suspended in California by jiveturkey on Thursday August 20, 2020 @03:14PM (#24227438)
neither do i. all of the on-call folks I know must respond to pages; they don't have the option to pass on them.

that's just the existing on-call model. it's quite easy to imagine that a service overprovisions to account for people not being required to accept a "page". that overprovisioning specifically is so that people can hold multiple on-call type jobs simultaneously.

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Re:Rideshare operations are being suspended in California by JamesBarney on Thursday August 20, 2020 @03:22PM (#24227539)
But I think if Uber and Lyft are required to pay their employees an hourly rate they would then require them to respond to every page for their scheduled shift.
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Re:Rideshare operations are being suspended in California by mcguire on Thursday August 20, 2020 @07:57PM (#24230417)
They don't now? I'd heard both would boot you from their network if you turn down too many rides.
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Re:Rideshare operations are being suspended in California by wedn3sday on Thursday August 20, 2020 @03:19PM (#24227503)
Back when I had to work be on call there was a minimum number of hours, so if I got a call at 2am from a client and I fixed the problem in 15 minutes I would still bill both them and the company for 2 hours. Not sure if there's a law mandating this or it was just the company policy.
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Re:Rideshare operations are being suspended in California by twobeararms on Thursday August 20, 2020 @03:29PM (#24227641)
On call and showing up for a work request are both mandated by law in CA. That's where a lot of issues people are overlooking lay with Uber/Lyft having employees. In their current model they would have to pay drivers just for logging into the app. If the driver did one customer drive and it took 10 minutes, they would have to pay the driver minimum 2 hours.
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