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Re:The Kush civilization flourished in Sudan nearly 5K years... by torstenvl on Thursday August 20, 2020 @02:29PM (#24226728)
Herodotus narrates the Athenians promising that they would never betray the Spartans because they are the same race ("homaimos" → "same blood").

I don't know off the top of my head whether the Romans widely knew of the Histories, but it certainly undercuts your claim that these broader categorizations are a recent invention. The Athenians and Spartans clearly recognized a racial idea broader than the cultures of their individual polities.

Re:The Kush civilization flourished in Sudan nearly 5K years... by monadic2 on Thursday August 20, 2020 @06:02PM (#24229548)
That is not race. Ethnicity and race are distinct concepts.
Re:The Kush civilization flourished in Sudan nearly 5K years... by torstenvl on Thursday August 20, 2020 @06:44PM (#24229888)
Re:The Kush civilization flourished in Sudan nearly 5K years... by monadic2 on Thursday August 20, 2020 @10:10PM (#24231252)
What does that have to do with this conversation? Agreeing on the meaning of words is necessary for basic discourse. It's not like distinguishing race and ethnicity is a redefinition during the course of conversation.

If you don't accept the distinction of course you're going to be blind to dependent concepts. That's just a basic failure of communication.

Re:The Kush civilization flourished in Sudan nearly 5K years... by nojokes on Thursday August 20, 2020 @08:16PM (#24230527)
Ethnicity and race are distinct concepts. Come out of your bubble, the world is not US. It is an important distinction to understand what is really going on in the world.

I make very arbitrary example. Lets take Poles and Russians. Both usually pale skinned, slavish people. Still they have such huge cultural and historical differences that they could not by any change form a single political entity.

Still there could be individuals among them that could argue that darker skinned people who are descendants of their nationals are not really Polish, Russian because of their skin color.

These people are racists. The people who argue that Poles are not Russians are not racists. These are just rational persons.