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Re:Rideshare operations are being suspended in California by lm28469 on Thursday August 20, 2020 @12:56PM (#24225422)
At that point it's full blown Stockholm syndrome, they somehow managed to make people believe it's in their own interest to be denied basic worker rights. Make them believe they are "their own boss" and they'll accept everything, even if they're just a tiny cog in the giant money printing machine (money they'll never see the color of)
Re:Rideshare operations are being suspended in California by manigandham on Thursday August 20, 2020 @12:57PM (#24225444)
Basic worker rights? Have you ever worked as an independent contractor? What rights are you specifically talking about?

People who have no idea or experience of others but want to remove their freedom and tell them what's best for them is far more insidious and dangerous.

Re:Rideshare operations are being suspended in California by lm28469 on Thursday August 20, 2020 @01:07PM (#24225610)
> People who have no idea or experience of others but want to

That's the basis of society, people who have a better overall views of things decide for you all the time, and it should be like that.

What's the opposite ? Private for profit companies deciding what's better for "you" ? That's what Uber and Amazon are trying to do and that's why they lose dozens of court cases about workers rights all over the world.

I don't even get your point, "it's not as bad as X", ok but what's the goal ? Raise the bar so that everyone has access to safe, sustainable jobs or lower the bar to the lowest acceptable working conditions ?

Re:Rideshare operations are being suspended in California by manigandham on Thursday August 20, 2020 @01:55PM (#24226249)
The issue is that people making these laws do not have a better overall view of things. When you go against the majority because you personally think something without experience or evidence, that's a major problem.

When did I make the point that "it's not as bad as X"? Both full-time driving jobs and freelance ride-sharing exist. Drivers can already choose what works for them, and many choose ride-sharing for the flexibility it offers and because it's what works in addition to their prior commitments.

Why do you want to take away that opportunity or think that people are incapable of making that choice for themselves?

Re:Rideshare operations are being suspended in California by opportune on Thursday August 20, 2020 @01:12PM (#24225684)
Personally I don’t think Uber drivers are as stupid as you think they are. They legitimately want to be able to drive flexibly. Also they keep about 75% of receipts for their driving (average gross margin for Uber is under 25%).
Re:Rideshare operations are being suspended in California by lm28469 on Thursday August 20, 2020 @01:28PM (#24225892)
> Also they keep about 75% of receipts for their driving

That's good because that way they can pay for their car insurance, health insurance, pension, gas, car maintenance, self employment taxes, frequent car cleaning, &c.

I'm not saying the drivers are stupid, I'm saying Uber &co are very smart.

Re:Rideshare operations are being suspended in California by kooshball on Thursday August 20, 2020 @03:06PM (#24227323)
When you're pulling the "Stockholm syndrome" card you're basically implying the drivers are stupid and unable to recognize they're victims.

Not sure how else to read your previous statement.