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Re:Foiling Electric Boat by kumarvvr on Thursday August 20, 2020 @11:51AM (#24224516)
Would this work if there are weeds or big fishes in the water?

The foil would get damaged pretty quickly, before actually killing most of the fish it comes into contact with.

The concept is very very old and well known. So there must be practical reasons why this was not commercialized.

Re:Foiling Electric Boat by Candelaboat on Thursday August 20, 2020 @12:06PM (#24224691)
Weeds can be an issue, unless the foils just cut through them. Taking off in a weed heavy water can be tricky, just like operating a jetski, a jet boat or a regular prop boat. It is true that a fish wouldn't fare too well either when hitting the leading edge of the foil, which is submerged to about 0.7 meters.

However, the foil can take quite a beating.

Regarding commercialization, which is a great question in itself, our experience tells us that it's due to: 1. It's hard to build controllable foils, especially in a "miniaturized" size like a 8 meter boat. 2. the technology to enable sufficient speed of electronic foil control hasn't been cheap nor good enough prior to the advent of consumer drones & smartphones.

Re:Foiling Electric Boat by kumarvvr on Thursday August 20, 2020 @12:29PM (#24224958)
As an electrical engineer, I'm intrigued. Do you actually control the angle of the foils during travel?

Is it to maintain a set height or change height too. I know that too high, and the boat becomes unstable.

I know that retracting the foils is a simple thing, relatively speaking.

However, if you are actually controlling the foil angle, isn't the technology available for decades? I mean there are cooling water pumps that change the impeller vane angles during operation at 400 - 700 RPM, there are helicopter blades that change angles, ship propellers can also change angle during operation, etc. There are many examples.

What technical problem have you specifically overcome in this case?

Re:Foiling Electric Boat by Candelaboat on Thursday August 20, 2020 @01:47PM (#24226144)
Great question. What's different in our case is that the flight controller captures the boat’s movements from 7 sensors. Then it establishes the full-state 3×6 state matrix (position, velocity and acceleration with regards to position in x, y and x and rotation around the same axis). This is partly done using sensor fusion algorithms.

We then use the outputs to control the angle of attack, along the longitudinal axis of the foil, essentially twisting it. The R&D that has gone into making this work reliably enough for a consumer product is our secret sauce.

Re:Foiling Electric Boat by kumarvvr on Thursday August 20, 2020 @01:59PM (#24226311)
I have a lot of questions and doubts, but I guess this would not be the best place to ask them.

Anyway, congrats on the product. It feels awesome.

Re:Foiling Electric Boat by jessaustin on Thursday August 20, 2020 @01:56PM (#24226270)
Helicopter blades change angles mechanically as controlled by human input. I presume the big ship propellers are the same, except they're probably more "set-and-forget"? Obviously the automatically-adjusted foils of a speedboat this size are a completely different situation.
Re:Foiling Electric Boat by usrusr on Thursday August 20, 2020 @04:31PM (#24228554)
Is anyone working on applying electronic foil control to sailing? I'm asking this under the assumption that foil sailing is universally human piloted because it's meant to be a challenging sport and I might be wrong in that. But if it's human piloted I could easily see room for a hybrid approach where propulsion is provided by wind but controls are powered and automated to make it more approachable.
Re:Foiling Electric Boat by lmm on Thursday August 20, 2020 @10:32PM (#24231392)
If you're talking about hydrofoils in general, they're commercial technology - I rode a hydrofoil ferry last month.