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Re:Secret gyms and the economics of prohibition by Alupis on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @05:27PM (#24216783)
Why is it not OK to jog on the beach by yourself? You don't seem to have an answer for that.

Don't allow large gatherings? OK fine, I might object to this, but I can see the other side at least.

Not allowing individuals to do individual activities? That seems misguided at best.

After all, we do allow Ice Cream Parlors to be open, and outdoor seating at restaurants where you sit in close proximity to other people who are not wearing masks... how is that better than jogging on the beach all by yourself?

They aren't better, and none of this is actually about safety nor is it about "Flattening the Curve" anymore. We flattened the curve long, long ago.

No, it's not about safety, it's about compliance. You will comply, regardless of how illogical or contradictory certain County Health Official Edicts are.

Re:Secret gyms and the economics of prohibition by bsder on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @08:43PM (#24218649)
> Not allowing individuals to do individual activities? That seems misguided at best.

Please reread my post. I already told you what the problem was.

A zillion people flooded the open beaches. The problem is that those zillion people then go places other than the beach and spread Covid.

The only real way to prevent that is to simply close the beach. Yes, that sucks for locals. So far, you have not presented an alternative solution. "Reopen the things!" is NOT a solution--it's idiocy.

However, you know what sucks more for locals? Getting Covid 19 from a bunch of out-of-towners because you work at the grocery stores, gas stations, etc. that they all flood after the beach.

Stop being a selfish prat. If you just have to be outdoors, go hike the mountains.

Re:Secret gyms and the economics of prohibition by Alupis on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @10:35PM (#24219304)
> I already told you

> it's idiocy.

> Stop being a selfish prat

Wow, that's quite an aggressive response, no?

The solution to your problem is to not allow large gatherings on the beach. That's pretty simple, right? We're doing that already everywhere else - lines to get into stores, etc. Or enforce wearing a mask? There's plenty of ways to do this that don't result in a squad of cops running down a solo jogger, or a task force of patrol boats and helicopters for a solo surfer... just because the Mayor or County Health Official said it must be so!

So, what's wrong, for the 3rd time, with a solo jogger on the beach, with nobody around them?

The answer, for a 3rd time, is nothing.

> However, you know what sucks more for locals? Getting Covid 19 from a bunch of out-of-towners

You really think that risk doesn't exist for locals going to grocery stores too? Touching a can of food, then putting it back on the shelf? Handling paper money, grocery bags, etc.

What we have here are not rules for the sake of safety. What we have here are not rules for the sake of "Flattening the Curve".

No, we have rules for the sake of rules. They make some people feel safer, even though there's zero evidence to suggest they are effective at achieving their intended goals. The reason people are disobeying these "orders" is because the government has not done a sufficient job convincing people the rules are based on logic and actual science, not "science" and politics.

It is not inherently more risky to jog on the beach by yourself than to go sit at an outdoor restaurant, no mask, and be around a bunch of other people.

It would be intellectually dishonest to argue otherwise. Yet, here we are.

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Re:Secret gyms and the economics of prohibition by jkinudsjknds on Thursday August 20, 2020 @07:33AM (#24222147)
I think you're being really unreasonable here. He's not saying he went to a flood of people at the beach. He's saying that should not be allowed, and is asking why he should not be allowed to go jogging on the beach alone. Emphasizing the word AFTER doesn't make any sense.