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Re:What harm do minimum wages do? by throwaway894345 on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @05:11PM (#24216564)
To the OP's credit, I think there's a difference between "a company can continue without filling a specific role for a very long time, while a worker must find a job quickly" and "a company can continue without any employees for a very long time" which seems to be more consistent with your lockdown example.

The OP's position is IMO wrong in that (rational) employers aren't incentivized to wait for the absolute lowest-price worker because of opportunity cost. Consider the example of a successful restaurant looking to fill the role of 'marketer'. The company is already profitable and could continue indefinitely without filling the role. However, the company is looking to fill this role precisely because it believes that it stands to profit a lot, and every day that the role goes unfilled they're losing out on that profit. So here the worker has some leverage. Further, the restaurant isn't the only game in town, the worker can have offers from multiple employers and parlay them against each other for still better offers. The wage ultimately depends on the size of the opportunity (the company won't pay the marketer 100% of the opportunity or it won't be worth hiring them) and the supply of marketers. Ultimately, the restaurant wants to hire the least-expensive marketer (ignoring variance in worker quality for sake of argument) without waiting too long (losing out on the opportunity). This is what a free market looks like--the OP is arguing that because an employer can theoretically avoid bankruptcy indefinitely without filling the position that the market is not free, but I think they misunderstand what "free market" means.

Re:What harm do minimum wages do? by WalterBright on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @06:41PM (#24217679)
Every job that pays more than minimum wage is evidence that workers do have negotiating power.
Re:What harm do minimum wages do? by edgyquant on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @09:03PM (#24218786)
You are greatly oversimplifying in response to paragraphs. Please expand on your point.
Re:What harm do minimum wages do? by WalterBright on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @09:16PM (#24218860)
I'm not so sure it is more complicated than that. I've been paid well in my career, and it wasn't because my employers were just nice guys.
Re:What harm do minimum wages do? by throwaway56034 on Thursday August 20, 2020 @04:07AM (#24221002)
The company can pay you anything between the legal minimum and the marginal product of your labor. As the labor market can never be perfectly competitive (i.e. an econ 101 textbook market), there will always be an employer who rationally calculates that paying more than minimum wage will be profitable - which in turn has an impact on the decisions of the other employers. This has nothing to do with them being nice guys.
Re:What harm do minimum wages do? by FabHK on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @10:25PM (#24219254)
No. In the text book case, you could be paid your marginal product well above minimum wage, and it would be compatible with neither you nor the firm having negotiating power.