Re:'Coup 53' tells the story of 1953 campaign by MI6 and CIA...
by refurb on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @08:26PM
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Why can't America just leave other countries alone and tend to its own sorry affairs?
Should the US just ignore the issues with Hong Kong? Honest question.
The US was quite isolationist in the early 1900's.
Re:'Coup 53' tells the story of 1953 campaign by MI6 and CIA...
by devenblake on Friday August 21, 2020 @03:33PM
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Honestly? I do believe in democracy and I do think that China is even less free than America. However, I don't think America has any claim to Hong Kong, so no. There are other avenues America and other free(er) countries can take to help Hong Kong's populace, namely, providing an expedited path to citizenship, and subsidizing travel expenses for those who need it and aren't necessarily seeking asylum. I'm not exactly sure of what to do though because I haven't been following the situation closely.
Re:'Coup 53' tells the story of 1953 campaign by MI6 and CIA...
by smallchungus on Thursday August 20, 2020 @09:17AM
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Maybe you should.
Re:'Coup 53' tells the story of 1953 campaign by MI6 and CIA...
by refurb on Thursday August 20, 2020 @06:32PM
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No doubt the US would be trashed if they did.
Maybe the US should have stayed out of WW2, or at least the European theatre? Western Europe would have fallen under the yoke of a communist dictator for 50 years.
Re:'Coup 53' tells the story of 1953 campaign by MI6 and CIA...
by devenblake on Friday August 21, 2020 @03:42PM
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WWII was different though because America joined the war after the Pearl Harbor attack, which was a direct offense by the axis powers. In my opinion America should actually have joined the war effort when Poland was invaded by Nazi Germany because Poland was (iirc) an ally to America. The situation is different with Hong Kong because China already controls Hong Kong. The conflict happening there is more of a civil war.
Re:'Coup 53' tells the story of 1953 campaign by MI6 and CIA...
by anigbrowl on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @04:08PM
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Power is a hell of a drug.
Re:'Coup 53' tells the story of 1953 campaign by MI6 and CIA...
by 082349872349872 on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @05:26PM
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Due to the structure of the power, also a drug that's hard to taper: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24071721 (where "the Gulf" refers to the Gulf of Mexico, not the Persian)
JFK, seeking an exit from that Catch-22, tried to promote international institutions[1] in order to approach a world "where the strong are just and the weak secure and the peace preserved"[2] ... but he got cancelled.
[1] compare late Ezra Pound for 1940's rants almost suitable for the 2020's: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24208047
Re:'Coup 53' tells the story of 1953 campaign by MI6 and CIA...
by pessimizer on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @05:54PM
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JFK also planned to help topple democratic government in Brazil and install the dictatorship. "Operation Brother Sam" was actually executed by LBJ, post-cancellation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1964_Brazilian_coup_d%27%C3%A9...
Why can't America just leave other countries alone and tend to its own sorry affairs? America tries to make other countries "more free" and then treats Blacks, Asians, Native Americans, Mexicans, other people of color, women, transgenders and other gender-nonconformists, homosexuals and anyone else that isn't heterosexual, Communists, Socialists, and anyone who isn't their form of "normal" as second-rate citizens in their own country. America (rightfully) accuses other countries of tampering in their election and then tampers in others' elections.[0] Their actions often contradict the values they claim to purvey.
I hear often that if another country was doing as poorly as America is right now, America would have "liberated" it already.
[0]: I found a source here: https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-interfered-in-elections-of-... for my claims, however it's questionable due to accusations of spreading propaganda. Here's a relevant article from a more trustworthy source: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/07/the-us-has...
[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augusto_Pinochet#U.S._backing_...