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Re:Modeling a Wealth Tax by stickfigure on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @05:33PM (#24204608)
There's a lot of assumptions in there that the economy is rapidly proving wrong right now. Wealth doesn't grow for everyone - and an income tax is more fair because people whose wealth is going up pay more than people whose wealth is going down.

We live in a world where remote work is rapidly becoming not just acceptable, but standard. Post-coronavirus geographic mobility will be high.

Look, we already have a wealth tax. Instead of dinging you every year and guaranteeing plenty of billable hours for accountants, we bundle it up in a big charge at the end. Everyone dies. How about we just enforce inheritance taxes and call it done?

Re:Modeling a Wealth Tax by mdorazio on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @08:16PM (#24205844)
There are a lot of weird incongruities in what you're saying here. First, how is an income tax more fair than a wealth tax? There is no guarantee at all that "people whose wealth is going up pay more than people whose wealth is going down.", let alone that the relative amounts of those items are fair. Additionally, wealth often accumulates via tax-advantaged vehicles that lower income individuals simply don't have access to.

Next, are you really implying that people will magically move to another country entirely because they can work remotely? The portion of workers who are even able to do such a thing, let alone likely to, is vanishingly small for many reasons (including, interestingly, income taxes).

And to your third point... again, you seem to not be aware of how estate planning works specifically to avoid paying taxes via things like trusts and inheriting shares in companies. Fixing inheritance taxation wouldn't come even close to being as effective as a wealth tax in preventing long-term accumulation of wealth with little economic input.

Here's where we're at: we have been trying income tax and the rich keep getting richer. Demonstrably and repeatedly. It isn't working, unless your definition of "working" is robber-baron era levels of economic disparity in America. If your proposed solution is variants of income taxes, well then you know the saying "define insanity". Wealth taxation is the only plan I've seen that logically prevents workarounds and actually serves to balance economic outcomes for Americans in the long term.

Re:Modeling a Wealth Tax by handoflixue on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @05:40PM (#24204677)
> Wealth doesn't grow for everyone

Yeah, but it does generally grow for people who have millions of dollars, especially over the course of the 60 year period that the original essay is discussing. In the short term, the stock market fluctuates and has recessions, but in the long term it's only ever gone up.

> How about we just enforce inheritance taxes and call it done?

Because having a semi-predictable tax base is good? It's a lot easier to manage the government budget if you get 2% of the value every year, versus 100% of the value in a lump sum at some unpredictable point in the future. There's only 630 billionaires in the US, so it doesn't seem like statistics helps even this out, either.

Re:Modeling a Wealth Tax by greycol on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @07:11PM (#24205432)
The difference between an income tax and a wealth tax is that currently those with wealth are able to avoid income taxes. Approaches like negative gearing and other strategies exist.

I'm on the fence on estate taxes as a general rule I'd say it definitely make sense above some threshold but if you look at the mess with Samsung there definitely needs to be some thought in how illiquid stocks are dealt with. I'd put a bit of cash on Lee Kun-hee sill being 'alive' until after my death or at least until a change in South Korean tax law.

Re:Modeling a Wealth Tax by ghostwriter on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @08:24PM (#24205900)
> How about we just enforce inheritance taxes and call it done?

How about we just enforce an inheritance tax in your family alone, and donate everything you have to a local charity and see if it makes a difference in your community? Your goal is to give away your wealth, as far as your comment goes, so it sounds like a legit plan of action. Just don't impose the same goal on everyone else.

Re:Modeling a Wealth Tax by _jahh on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @10:16PM (#24206510)
because that's not how societies work, you live in a state you benefit from the expenses and investments and other people in the state and you pay in to that, sorry it is the deal, in the last 40 years there has been a reversal of where the tax burden falls not to mention there are trillions of dollars of tax fraud https://www.taxjustice.net/2020/07/22/tax-justice-networks-o...
Re:Modeling a Wealth Tax by ghostwriter on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @06:59AM (#24209063)
> because that's not how societies work

Can you prove that? So far I just see a bunch of people claiming other people's wealth their own to dispose of. That's definitely not how a healthy society is able to function in a long run. USSR tried that, Cambodia tried that, Venezuela is trying it now.