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Re:Google: Open Letter to Australians by taneq on Monday August 17, 2020 @02:18AM (#24184497)
I think ssss11's point was, if no matter who you vote for they do the same dastardly things, and the political system is set up to lock out newcomers not allied with either major party, then there's no way within the system to stop something by voting.
Re:Google: Open Letter to Australians by ssss11 on Monday August 17, 2020 @02:23AM (#24184524)
Yeah thats right, I think in Australia your vote basically means nothing.
Re:Google: Open Letter to Australians by zizee on Monday August 17, 2020 @04:02AM (#24185060)
This is not true. Federal senators are elected on a state wide basis with the top N candidates past the post (N depending on size of the state). This can result in Senators being elected with a very small % of the overall votes.

For the lower house, we've had many years of the balance of power in the hands of a small number of independents who get an outsized voice.

Yes, if you live in an non-swing electorate, that is strongly held by the incumbent, then you could argue that your vote doesn't matter, but only because there are more people voting for something else. Isn't that how things are meant to work?

Re:Google: Open Letter to Australians by taneq on Monday August 17, 2020 @11:17PM (#24194903)
All of this is true, but it ignores the fact that the two major parties pretty much agree on many important issues (such as government monitoring of internet traffic).

Also the fact that (especially with a hung parliament which we've had for years) independents get an outsized voice is a bit of a two-edged sword. It's far more luck than anything else that determines who's in that vote-tipping seat and sometimes they demand all sorts of special-interest stuff in order to let things through.

Re:Google: Open Letter to Australians by sthnblllII on Monday August 17, 2020 @03:47AM (#24184978)
You are certainly correct if you vote for the center-left or center-right parties. But that is true in all western states.

Are you familiar with French politics? For all the crap Americans give them about surrendering in the world wars, the french have had the courage to sideline both their center right and center left parties and now the biggest parties are nationalist and socialist.