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Re:Ask HN: Anyone a social entrepreneur, i.e. placing social... by benrmatthews on Saturday August 15, 2020 @10:45AM (#24169240)
I’ve been working for, running and volunteering for social enterprises for 12 years now.

I find that “social enterprise” as a term isn’t really known by anyone outside of the social enterprise bubble, e.g. those running, funding or volunteering for a social enterprise.

The funding structures available to social enterprises seems to be an issue - you can be anything from a private limited company through to a registered charity or anything in between (and don’t get me started on CICs...).

I know a fully for-profit company who claims they are a social enterprise just because their main client base is registered charities.

I also think that the B Corp movement (https://bcorporation.net/) is building a much better brand than the social enterprise movement - and the whole process to becoming a registered B Corp is much more stringent than become a social enterprise, and has the added benefit of helping improve the social impact of organisations that apply to become B Corp registered.

I’m currently building a database of social good organisations in the UK and beyond here: https://goodhere.org/

Would love to see more projects and funders submitted. Email is in profile if you’re interested in discussing more.

Re:Ask HN: Anyone a social entrepreneur, i.e. placing social... by User23 on Saturday August 15, 2020 @01:57PM (#24170812)
> I know a fully for-profit company who claims they are a social enterprise just because their main client base is registered charities.

Cynical me thinks that for-profit companies primarily work to benefit their executives and shareholders. Non-profit companies primary work to benefit their executives alone. How is this better? My source is overhead conversations in bars in Seattle where I heard Gates Foundation executives bragging about how they were getting paid $300,000 a year to do absolutely nothing.

Re:Ask HN: Anyone a social entrepreneur, i.e. placing social... by slfnflctd on Saturday August 15, 2020 @04:43PM (#24172215)
> bragging about how they were getting paid $300,000 a year to do absolutely nothing

If I was doing this, I would feel guilty as hell and wouldn't tell a single soul. I'd probably also be looking for something else to do. The messed-up stuff some people boast about, it's sickening.

Re:Ask HN: Anyone a social entrepreneur, i.e. placing social... by User23 on Saturday August 15, 2020 @04:53PM (#24172307)
In vino veritas. You can learn a lot in bars if you drink soda water and lime and pay attention. Especially in hubs like Seattle or Mountain View.
Re:Ask HN: Anyone a social entrepreneur, i.e. placing social... by slickdork on Saturday August 15, 2020 @03:11PM (#24171414)
Non-profits have to report financial, and in their 990 forms have to say all employees who make over 100k a year. You can look at them usually through the IRS website. Gates Foundation posts theirs here: https://www.gatesfoundation.org/Who-We-Are/General-Informati...

The only people making more than 300,000 are their 4 directors.

Re:Ask HN: Anyone a social entrepreneur, i.e. placing social... by O_H_E on Saturday August 15, 2020 @04:50PM (#24172274)
> where I heard Gates Foundation...

Oh, come on, that was one of the few places I semi-idealize as ethical and "clean".

Humans will be humans I guess...

Re:Ask HN: Anyone a social entrepreneur, i.e. placing social... by obmelvin on Saturday August 15, 2020 @04:59PM (#24172360)
I don't think this necessarily says anything to the contrary of that. If you are someone at Gates overseeing research grants etc, you probably have a PhD and I'm sure the Gates job is less stressful than doing your own research. I could very easily see how friends of mine would say such a position is "easy" compared to publishing yourself, being scooped, research failing, etc. Instead, you get paid well to help other people do the same. Nothing wrong with that - it's just perspective.

Granted, I didn't talk to this executive, but I feel somewhat comfortable hypothesizing this due to what I know of this area.

Re:Ask HN: Anyone a social entrepreneur, i.e. placing social... by O_H_E on Saturday August 15, 2020 @10:47PM (#24174479)
That sounds reasonable. Thanks for the perspective :)
Re:Ask HN: Anyone a social entrepreneur, i.e. placing social... by octodog on Saturday August 15, 2020 @05:39PM (#24172660)
If the source is a comment on HN from someone who says they overheard it in a bar then I wouldn't worry about it too much.
Re:Ask HN: Anyone a social entrepreneur, i.e. placing social... by O_H_E on Saturday August 15, 2020 @10:46PM (#24174471)
True that :)
Re:Ask HN: Anyone a social entrepreneur, i.e. placing social... by tommaitland on Saturday August 15, 2020 @10:53AM (#24169302)
+1 on B Corp certification being better than a “social enterprise”. I’ve seen so many companies call themselves social enterprises with little evidence of impact, which really amounts to a new form of greenwashing. B Corp helps solve that
Re:Ask HN: Anyone a social entrepreneur, i.e. placing social... by benrmatthews on Saturday August 15, 2020 @11:03AM (#24169367)
We’re currently going through the B Corp process and even taking the initial questionnaire is improving the social impact side of our business and helping us plan for how we can improve here.

I’m sure B Corp as term suffers from the same issues as social enterprise does, namely who knows or cares what a B Corp is outside of those that have achieved B Corp status?

Sometimes it seems much simpler to just be a business and outline your social impact on your website and marketing materials, or register as a straight charity so there’s no questions asked.

Re:Ask HN: Anyone a social entrepreneur, i.e. placing social... by peridotoak on Saturday August 15, 2020 @11:13AM (#24169426)
Hey Ben! I took a look around GoodHere, and to be honest with you, this is similar to a product idea I had in mind (at its core but different in vision + implementation).

How are you looking to monetize the platform? Would you mind talking things over with a potential competitor?

Re:Ask HN: Anyone a social entrepreneur, i.e. placing social... by benrmatthews on Saturday August 15, 2020 @11:18AM (#24169463)
Would be happy to chat, feel free to email (see bio).
Re:Ask HN: Anyone a social entrepreneur, i.e. placing social... by camdenlock on Saturday August 15, 2020 @02:37PM (#24171167)
> B Lab Takes a Stand: A Commitment to Justice and Anti-Racism

A lot of these organizations seem to be ideologically possessed by Critical Race Theory. The above snippet is essentially identical to:

> B Lab Takes a Stand: A Commitment to Dianetics and Scientology