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Re:San Francisco will put ‘CEO tax’ on the ballot this November by MrBuddyCasino on Saturday August 15, 2020 @05:31AM (#24167442)
> Where swathes of employees are let go when a company underperforms, but no-one is held accountable for making the strategic blunders that got them there.

Execs should have more Skin in the Game. But it is also a fact that the higher you go in the hierarchy, the riskier your job gets. You get fired easier, in shorter amounts of time and sometimes just for backstabbing/political reasons. The average tenure of execs has gotten shorter and shorter over the last decades. Finding a new job is also considerably harder, as the market size gets smaller and smaller the higher you go in the pyramid.

There are bad and questionable reasons why compensations are high, but also some good and reasonable ones. If markets seem irrational, chances are good you don’t fully understand them.

Re:San Francisco will put ‘CEO tax’ on the ballot this November by mehrdadn on Saturday August 15, 2020 @05:34AM (#24167470)
> The average tenure of execs has gotten shorter and shorter over the last decades.

"Reduced tenure" when you're making plenty more money than needed to avoid having to work the difference in the first place hardly seems like such a catastrophic outcome. So many people can only dream of making enough money so they can retire early and not have to work at all. I know if you pay me a million dollars I wouldn't exactly shed a tear if I don't find a job anytime soon. I'm not sure I'd be dying to look for one either, and if somehow I were, I wouldn't feel entitled to anyone's sympathy if I don't find one, let alone feel entitled to offloading my emotional "cost" onto their wallets.

And I'm not even trying to take a side here. I do get that the situation is not as trivial as some portray it. But in your effort to illustrate that fact, you're oversimplifying massively in the other direction and ignoring some pretty salient facts.

> You get fired easier

I haven't particularly noticed CEOs match the turnover rates of their average employees, but I suppose you have data to the contrary and it's just my ignorance?

Re:San Francisco will put ‘CEO tax’ on the ballot this November by Miner49er on Saturday August 15, 2020 @05:45AM (#24167525)
Most CEO's golden parachutes are worth more then some workers make in a decade or even their lifetime. It doesn't matter if they are at a higher risk of being fired or have a harder time finding a job afterwards.
Re:San Francisco will put ‘CEO tax’ on the ballot this November by tpetry on Saturday August 15, 2020 @05:43AM (#24167517)
I wouldnt call being a highly paid ceo be „riskier“. The ones not fired because of fraud get a new position ant a new company again very „fast“. Even the incompetent ones with a track history of companies dying after they came.
Re:San Francisco will put ‘CEO tax’ on the ballot this November by pydry on Saturday August 15, 2020 @05:41AM (#24167503)
Risky like when Adam Neumann was fired from WeWork with a $1.7 billion severance package?

>If markets seem irrational, chances are good you don’t fully understand them.

So not a racket then?

Re:San Francisco will put ‘CEO tax’ on the ballot this November by kakd on Saturday August 15, 2020 @05:44AM (#24167519)
Neumann was a co-founder. Hired CEOs will almost never make it to billionaire status (Ballmer, Schmidt and Damon are the only notable exceptions I know of).
Re:San Francisco will put ‘CEO tax’ on the ballot this November by pydry on Saturday August 15, 2020 @06:20AM (#24167727)
That might be so, yet it still seems that CEOs can do pretty magnificently out of being fired even when they fuck up really badly.
Re:San Francisco will put ‘CEO tax’ on the ballot this November by Talanes on Saturday August 15, 2020 @05:59AM (#24167595)
>You get fired easier, in shorter amounts of time

Your average retail worker is responsible for following confusing sets of rules that are rarely fully modeled, if even fully understood, while working under cameras that are selectively and obliquely monitored. If someone wants them fired, or the place just needs to reduce staff, providing a justification is very low-effort.

Re:San Francisco will put ‘CEO tax’ on the ballot this November by quickthrower2 on Saturday August 15, 2020 @06:25AM (#24167759)
I’d love to see the gardens of these poor CEOs give the generous gardening leave arrangements being paid out when they are fired.
Re:San Francisco will put ‘CEO tax’ on the ballot this November by heavenlyblue on Saturday August 15, 2020 @05:52AM (#24167573)
Obviously there’s more reasons to backstab when the pay is hundreds of times that of a regular employee