Re:Warren Buffett traded Goldman Sachs for gold
by soulofmischief on Saturday August 15, 2020 @02:33AM
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Buffet was commenting on the social absurdity of the situation, but that has little bearing on his investment strategies. Money is money, and I'm sure Buffet has similar contempt for quite a few industries he's invested in.
Re:Warren Buffett traded Goldman Sachs for gold
by cafebabbe on Saturday August 15, 2020 @06:19AM
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A very forgiving description for what is just plain hypocrisy.
Re:Warren Buffett traded Goldman Sachs for gold
by soulofmischief on Saturday August 15, 2020 @03:33PM
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If I think that fidget spinners are a stupid trend, but I know a guy who will buy 100 boxes from me, I'm going to make that transaction. There is nothing hypocritical about this. I can happily take money from people while holding them in contempt. Don't you do this at your own job when you get a paycheck from your boss?
Re:Warren Buffett traded Goldman Sachs for gold
by dunce2020 on Saturday August 15, 2020 @07:10AM
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That's not hypocrisy.
Re:Warren Buffett traded Goldman Sachs for gold
by thedudeabides5 on Saturday August 15, 2020 @11:00AM
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Yeah it’s called “shifting the portfolio” and seems a reasonable thing to do for the worlds best fundamental investor in this time of unlimited printing.
Re:Warren Buffett traded Goldman Sachs for gold
by WealthVsSurvive on Saturday August 15, 2020 @02:09PM
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Yeah, he's actively betting on people making poor choices in times of panic, not on Gold. Gold is merely the medium. It's not hypocritical at all.
Re:Warren Buffett traded Goldman Sachs for gold
by klodolph on Saturday August 15, 2020 @02:27AM
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Not sure I count that as a surprise--in one breath I'll talk about how C is a terrible language, and in another breath I'll talk about my latest project which I'm writing in C.
Re:Warren Buffett traded Goldman Sachs for gold
by refurb on Saturday August 15, 2020 @03:38AM
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The headline hides the fact he’s not buying gold, but rather a gold mining company.
Yes, the stock tracks the prices of gold, but the stock beat gold by 45% so far this year.
It sounds like buffet is investing in a mining business not actual gold (albeit they are linked somewhat).
Re:Warren Buffett traded Goldman Sachs for gold
by vijayr02 on Saturday August 15, 2020 @03:58AM
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Equity in a gold mining company is a leveraged play on gold: since the company has debt, the equity will react more than the price of gold (on both the upside and the downside) with a floor at 0. So he's purchased a call option on gold.
Re:Warren Buffett traded Goldman Sachs for gold
by vitobcn on Saturday August 15, 2020 @07:39AM
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The gold mining company can generate future incoming cashflows, gold doesn't.
Re:Warren Buffett traded Goldman Sachs for gold
by vijayr02 on Saturday August 15, 2020 @08:48AM
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The equity in the gold company is a call on the gold in the ground: the cash flows of the company come from extracting this gold. Getting a bit more detailed, the leverage comes from 2 elements: (a) operating leverage i.e. company generates more revenue with same fixed operating costs and (b) financial leverage i.e. company generates more net operating income with same fixed interest costs. The basic point is that the cash flows all come from extracting gold, so the equity is a derivative on this underlying.
Re:Warren Buffett traded Goldman Sachs for gold
by pete762 on Saturday August 15, 2020 @04:57AM
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I see no problem here. He is buying a gold miner, so he is buying a business profiting off this weird desire for gold. You could basically say the same about chocolate: "People pay money to buy what is basically compressed sugar to then die from diabetes" (little exaggerated). Doesn't mean it's not profitable to own chocolate companies (as Buffett does)
Re:Warren Buffett traded Goldman Sachs for gold
by waihtis on Saturday August 15, 2020 @02:47AM
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There's not much utility to many things in daily life if you scrap it to its base components.
It reminds me of the story of how Steve Jobs got John Sculley, then CEO of Pepsi, to join Apple: “Do you want to sell sugar water for the rest of your life or come with me and change the world?”
Re:Warren Buffett traded Goldman Sachs for gold
by malux85 on Saturday August 15, 2020 @02:29AM
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I think thats a reflection on his thoughts on Goldman Sachs more than anything
Re:Warren Buffett traded Goldman Sachs for gold
by divbzero on Saturday August 15, 2020 @02:37AM
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There’s also a difference between buying gold and investing in a gold miner: the former is purely speculative while the latter can provide a stream of income.
Re:Warren Buffett traded Goldman Sachs for gold
by fspeech on Saturday August 15, 2020 @02:33AM
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He has investment managers who can make independent decisions. Selling out of GS is obviously his move. Buying a gold miner? We can't be sure.
Re:Warren Buffett traded Goldman Sachs for gold
by theredlion on Saturday August 15, 2020 @02:27AM
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I don't think that quote makes this move surprising
Re:Warren Buffett traded Goldman Sachs for gold
by missedthecue on Saturday August 15, 2020 @03:15AM
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Well he didn't buy gold, he bought shares in a company whose main business is gold mining.
Re:Warren Buffett traded Goldman Sachs for gold
by raverbashing on Saturday August 15, 2020 @03:18AM
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This reminds me of that "sells shovels" way of becoming a millionaire
Re:Warren Buffett traded Goldman Sachs for gold
by nurettin on Saturday August 15, 2020 @02:28AM
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He would probably have an equally or more estranged view of goldman sachs.
Re:Warren Buffett traded Goldman Sachs for gold
by onetimemanytime on Saturday August 15, 2020 @02:52AM
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not surprising at all. His goal is to make money (legally) so if people drive the price of gold up, he will profit if possible. Very simple.
He will also sell if he thinks it no longer makes investment sense.
"Gold gets dug out of the ground in Africa, or some place. Then we melt it down, dig another hole, bury it again and pay people to stand around guarding it. It has no utility. Anyone watching from Mars would be scratching their head."
[1] https://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/05/25/bury-gold/