Re:Factorio 1.0
by cheez on Friday August 14, 2020 @04:29PM
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You had the answer yourself. Legislation. Government-run factories for the benefit of the people.
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You mean governments nationalize the factories?
either/or. History is full of these types of tradeoffs. In the completely hypothetical example from above, it would be worth it to figure something out.
I have another theory. Which is that people will beat machines and create and pursue things that we can't even imagine at the moment. I am rooting for human creativity over machines' brute incredible strength.
Even if that's not possible, that's what we should strive for
Re:Factorio 1.0
by adamnemecek on Friday August 14, 2020 @04:46PM
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Build new ones.
You could see it in the history of countries that went through a socialist phase (such as Russia): it works, until it doesn't.
As soon as there is no personal incentive (or real ability) to improve things, the tech sector starts to stagnate and fall behind the rest of the world.
The hypothetical case was zero human input, self sustaining factories that rely on renewable energy. In that hypothetical case... How could nationalizing screw it up since there is no human or non-renewable input required? I guess they can "overuse it" so we all become Eloi but we're on the way there anyway.
This implies having all the necessary factories for all things, to begin with. Which seems utopic to begin with, right?
With renewable energy, etc, the country shouldn't fall apart like USSR did, but it is almost certain to fall prey to more entrepreneurial/militaristic neighbors, sooner or later.