Re:Stanford cancels plans to bring half of undergrads back t...
by chrisseaton on Friday August 14, 2020 @10:58AM
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> What is the distinction between a chef trained at a vocational school and a lawyer trained at a law school?
One is considered by society to be a 'tradesperson', while the other is considered a 'professional'. Society considers law to not be a 'trade' because it is a 'profession' instead and society sees these as mutually exclusive by definition.
I think what you really mean is you don't agree with society's definitions. That's fine - it's an interesting discussion and I didn't express any opinion on it myself. But I don't think you were ever really mistaken about what the original comment meant - you were feigning confusion as a rhetorical device, which is why I think other people down-voted you.
Re:Stanford cancels plans to bring half of undergrads back t...
by elliekelly on Friday August 14, 2020 @11:10AM
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Please don’t speak for me. I wasn’t “feigning” anything and I meant exactly what I said.
What is the distinction between a chef trained at a vocational school and a lawyer trained at a law school? Or a programmer trained at Stanford?
Chefs produce something tangible, you might say. Lawyers do, too. We draft briefs and contracts and court filings. Or maybe you’ll point out that a chef has learned a skill that takes a certain je ne sais quoi that cant be taught but can only be acquired with deliberate practice? I would say the same of programmers. (And attorneys, for that matter.) Coding is as much an art as it is a science.
And I don’t think the document you’ve linked excludes professional trades. Lawyers and doctors and programmers all provide a service:
> ‘Trade’ therefore takes its ordinary meaning, which normally involves commercial operations by a trader who provides goods or services to his or her customers in exchange for a reward.