Re:Stanford cancels plans to bring half of undergrads back t...
by ceilingcorner on Friday August 14, 2020 @10:29AM
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TBH I think this is a feature, not a bug. Over-credentializing coding will limit creativity. If you want a better existing paradigm, consider design (as in the broad field of design, which includes graphic, fashion, industrial, etc.)
Re:Stanford cancels plans to bring half of undergrads back t...
by jeffbee on Friday August 14, 2020 @11:01AM
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That's fine with me because I favor the trade direction. I tell my mentees to make things in good taste that they're proud to show people, like a cabinet maker.
Re:Stanford cancels plans to bring half of undergrads back t...
by room500 on Friday August 14, 2020 @01:09PM
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After dealing with many legacy projects from "creative" developers, I don't think standardizing on some basic practices would be a bad thing
Re:Stanford cancels plans to bring half of undergrads back t...
by jquery on Friday August 14, 2020 @02:09PM
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That might increase efficiency but I bet it would reduce joy. As someone who joined the industry for the joy aspect, not the efficiency and money aspect, that’s not very appealing to me. Besides, I think standardization is already happening and being rewarded in the form of higher salaries for people who are fluent in modern frameworks and practices.
Re:Stanford cancels plans to bring half of undergrads back t...
by 0xffff2 on Friday August 14, 2020 @11:43AM
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>There's no licensure, no guild, no liability,
Those are all things that are near-universally features of working a trade, so what exactly is the difference between a trade and a profession?
Re:Stanford cancels plans to bring half of undergrads back t...
by jeffbee on Friday August 14, 2020 @11:55AM
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You got me there. I guess I think of specific trades that don't have those aspects. As far as I am aware, you don't need a state license to be a machinist. But yes, you do need those things to be an electrician etc.
So I guess software development is just basically like bagging groceries. Totally informal.
Re:Stanford cancels plans to bring half of undergrads back t...
by elliekelly on Friday August 14, 2020 @12:02PM
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See now I don’t think I’d consider grocery bagging a trade because there isn’t really any skill involved. You could pick just about any person off the street and they’d be able to bag groceries.
Re:Stanford cancels plans to bring half of undergrads back t...
by 908B64B197 on Friday August 14, 2020 @08:04PM
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That makes recruiting a very fun game.
I wouldn't believe the stories on candidates failing FizzBuzz until I saw it with my own eyes, several times!
The software industry would benefit from moving in the direction of being either a "trade" without the manual labor, or toward being a real profession, but it currently occupies a weird middle ground.