Re:Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store
by three_seagrass on Thursday August 13, 2020 @05:23PM
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AMP isn't enforced though. You can say 'not yet' or 'it's kind of the same' but that applies for a lot of standards.
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Re:Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store
by ethbro on Thursday August 13, 2020 @05:33PM
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It's enforced through visibility / rankings in Google Search results.
https://developers.google.com/search/docs/guides/about-amp
Isn't there a term for using dominance in one market to compel behavior in another?
Re:Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store
by three_seagrass on Thursday August 13, 2020 @05:45PM
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Your link doesn't say that Google forces AMP on publishers. It shows that Google displays an icon next to AMP results for mobile searches to indicate the page is mobile friendly. Bing does the exact same thing: https://blogs.bing.com/Webmaster-Blog/September-2018/Introdu...
This is not enforcing AMP on publishers in the results, and the argument that it is by using icons falls under the 'it's kind of the same' category.
Re:Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store
by rhizome on Thursday August 13, 2020 @11:02PM
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It says they use site speed in ranking, and, well, I'm sure it would come as no surprise if Google's (largely) having served a page/site increases the speed just enough.
Re:Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store
by three_seagrass on Friday August 14, 2020 @02:03PM
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If you can beat AMP load times, you will likely rank higher than AMP pages from the speed factor.
This is how you do agnostic search results, and it is not putting the thumb on the scale as you're implying.
Re:Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store
by thefucnjosh on Thursday August 13, 2020 @05:57PM
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There is a term for that.... I think it's either it's "abuse of dominance" or "anti-competitive behavior"
Re:Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store
by refulgentis on Thursday August 13, 2020 @06:38PM
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to put it as plainly as possible, it's absolutely hilarious that tech people buy into these insane myths about AMP, there's a reason why no serious antitrust person brings it up, it's fighting on Google's territory - it's a wide open standard, used throughout the industry, formed in response to proprietary solutions designed to tax suppliers by Facebook and Apple, immediately and fully shared with competitors.