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Re:"Much" of the Rust/Wasmtime team hit by layoffs at Mozilla by dclusin on Thursday August 13, 2020 @11:49AM (#24144619)
Firefox has development tools? Is there certain features that are missing? Because you can bring up a dev console and inspect elements and such. Genuine question from a not full-time frontend developer, not being snarky.
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Re:"Much" of the Rust/Wasmtime team hit by layoffs at Mozilla by amenod on Thursday August 13, 2020 @01:07PM (#24145583)
Firefox has had development tools from way before Chrome even existed. They started as an (awesome!) Firebug extension, which they later included in the browser itself (not that it matters, but it was Chrome that basically copied them at the time).
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Re:"Much" of the Rust/Wasmtime team hit by layoffs at Mozilla by cryptoz on Thursday August 13, 2020 @01:28PM (#24145841)
Was looking for this comment! This is key here, because the story is extra sad given Mozilla/FF's initial strong surge in leader front-end developer tools. Before the Firebug extension I think I just did like View Source still from the menu? Yikes!

Chrome copied it and at first IMO it wasn't nearly as good inside Chrome as in FF. But that did eventually change and for some years now I (sadly) agree I also prefer Chrome's.

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Re:"Much" of the Rust/Wasmtime team hit by layoffs at Mozilla by Crespyl on Thursday August 13, 2020 @02:29PM (#24146540)
> Mozilla/FF's initial strong surge in leader front-end developer tools

Back in the days when Mozilla put a focus on the needs of power-users and developers...

It's hard to pin down a single point where they dropped that ideal, but it's definitely long gone now.

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Re:"Much" of the Rust/Wasmtime team hit by layoffs at Mozilla by mjw1007 on Thursday August 13, 2020 @01:51PM (#24146089)
Before Firebug Mozilla had Venkman and the DOM Inspector.
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Re:"Much" of the Rust/Wasmtime team hit by layoffs at Mozilla by yurys on Thursday August 13, 2020 @03:39PM (#24147541)
Firebug was amazing, it was way ahead of what Chrome had when it was released!

Dedicated work on Chrome DevTools started only in 2009 and before version 3 or 4 Chrome had only had Elements panel inherited from Web Inspector, Console and gdb-style command line debugger (perhaps basic Network don't remember). It was catching up with Firebug quickly though because web developer tools was stated as a priority for the project.

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Re:"Much" of the Rust/Wasmtime team hit by layoffs at Mozilla by terrortrain on Thursday August 13, 2020 @11:53AM (#24144673)
Firefox has dev tools, and they are very similar for basic things.

There are some differences with some of the more advanced dev tools.

I like both

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