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Re:NSA Owns Everything (2015) by jacquesm on Thursday August 13, 2020 @11:03AM (#24144031)
Spot on. So, the one was a theory, the world being ruled by Lizard people is a conspiracy theory.

This list:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories

Does not include anything even remotely like 'The NSA is listening in on all of us'. At present it is not even a theory, it is established fact but at no point in the past would I have put that on the same level of the items on that list.

The paranoid irrational beliefs one is the one that I think best covers the payload. The second one is only interesting from a pedantic/academic point of view.

Re:NSA Owns Everything (2015) by JoelMcCracken on Thursday August 13, 2020 @11:18AM (#24144236)
Do you think, for example, that the death of Jeremy Epstein was not really a suicide is as unlikely as any others? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories#Je...

Or, for example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories#MK... which we actually know as having been real (though not necessarily all of the related theories are true, as I don't know what they are. But I am pretty sure that if you said "the goverment is kidnapping Americans and doing chemical mind control experiments on them" before all the facts abotu MKUltra came out, people would have labeled you a conspiracy theory nut.

Re:NSA Owns Everything (2015) by jacquesm on Thursday August 13, 2020 @11:49AM (#24144623)
I've yet to see proof of Epstein's suicide. It may be true, it may not be true, likely we will never know. A proper conspiracy about it does not just state that there is a possibility that Epstein committed suicide, it will also include who did it and why.

As for the MKUltra stuff: the whole crux of a good conspiracy theory is that it is rooted in some real world event and then puts a crazy spin on it. People probably don't even realize when they step off the cliff of reason into the world of the nut cases.