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Re:NSA Owns Everything (2015) by Cthulhu_ on Thursday August 13, 2020 @06:14AM (#24141728)
Both 9/11 and covid are a case of human error (the latter more incompetence and inaction though); at 9/11 they HAD all the information they needed, where the terrorists had been, their communications, etc (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks#FBI), but they apparently didn't connect the dots, failed to act, failed to not grant them entry into the country, etc.

Mind you, a lot of these projects are post-9/11 so I'm confident a lot of it has been a result of it and the massive financial injections that the US government put into counter-terrorism since then.

Finally, I like to think that the NSA and co don't want to advertise how much attempts they thwart; if they, for example, stop an attack every day, the people will become afraid of terrorists because incidents happen so often. But I'm not sure if they are being kept silent.

Re:NSA Owns Everything (2015) by lilbaine on Thursday August 13, 2020 @02:18PM (#24146409)
Also in the 9/11 commission report the one hijacker, Zacarias Moussaoui was under investigation by the FBI in Minnesota and their FISA warrant was denied. The dispute was supposedly also over a "lack of communication/cooperation" between the FBI and CIA in active investigations.

Coleen Rowley was the whistle-blower on this event, and testified to congress. Everything on the laptop had the evidence of the 9/11 attacks, but was blocked by the FISA court.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coleen_Rowley

Ironically great investigators with 2001 tech could have prevented the 9/11 attacks. Appallingly then the FISA court approved the whole sale surveillance of any Verizon customer. The wholesale Verizon order was the 1st and one of the biggest important information leaks from the Snowden documents.

A court that was set up to protect the civil liberties of Americans during the abuses of the 1960's-1970's failed in the protection of the largest terrorist attack in US history, but was then used to circumvent the civil liberties and privacy rights of a massive numbers of American citizens.

Then the government used the pretext of 9/11 to create these technologies by for the NSA to surveil the large majority of its own citizens, when all that was needed was 1 FISA warrant approval.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_A._Drake

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Binney_(intelligence_o...

It's appalling, with the loss of our rights and the digital world now being used to further deteriorate these rights when it can be used in such better and positive ways.

Also a 20+ year war, Trillions of dollars, and millions of deaths could have prevented from not blocking this warrant. While right now, with COVID, we could use Trillions of dollars to help keep US citizens safe and use it for small business support during these tough times.

Re:NSA Owns Everything (2015) by agumonkey on Thursday August 13, 2020 @06:27AM (#24141811)
yes indeed it's a touchy system that can't be disclosed..