China hires over 100 TSMC engineers in push for chip leadership

Re:China hires over 100 TSMC engineers in push for chip lead... by sudosysgen on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @08:39PM (#24138806)

I meant that most nations action's align with their interests, not their rhetoric or ideology.

I'm not making a claim as to what we should do, I'm just saying that our current IP system has nothing to do with morality and everything to do with Western power and interest.

Personally I think a system such as the one you described is preferable too, but I'm just explaining the Realist (and by extension Materialist in the Fuerbachian sense, and thus Marxist, and thus Chinese) perspective on why laws are the way they are (which is incidentally correct), by contrast with the Idealist narrative that States tend to use to justify their interests.

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Re:China hires over 100 TSMC engineers in push for chip lead... by totalZero on Thursday August 13, 2020 @12:19AM (#24139893)

> our current IP system has nothing to do with morality and everything to do with Western power and interest.

Property rights are neither a question of morality nor a question of realpolitik. They are an economic construct. Property is the only so-called natural right that does not exist at birth. We are born with life, and we are born with liberty, but we are not born with property.

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Re:China hires over 100 TSMC engineers in push for chip lead... by sudosysgen on Thursday August 13, 2020 @11:11AM (#24144152)

I never understood this line of argument. Economics is 100% inextricable from realpolitik. Whether you have a socially constructed economic right or not is 100% a question of realpolitik.

Also, private property simply isn't a natural right, not even by the definition of Hobbes. The right of exclusion of something you don't use is neither natural nor universal in most early human civilizations, it just simply isn't a natural right.

And intellectual property in particular is perhaps the opposite of a natural right.

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Re:China hires over 100 TSMC engineers in push for chip lead... by DetroitThrow on Thursday August 13, 2020 @05:06PM (#24149155)

Locke ran with Life, Liberty, and Estate but even the American founding fathers went with the idea that Estate is an socioeconomic construct for the purpose of "freedom".

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