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Re:How Are Postmaster General Louis DeJoy's Changes Affectin... by vkou on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @04:20PM (#24136408)
The only part of the world's mail services that moved to profitable and privatized mail, is mail service for high-margin packages to cities and large towns.

The day that UPS will be obligated to deliver a first-class letter from East Bufu, Oklohoma (population 68 people, and 837 cows), to Seward, Alaska (population 2,736 people and 14 grizzly bears), for 55 cents, is the day that their privatized business model will stop being profitable.

Re:How Are Postmaster General Louis DeJoy's Changes Affectin... by nickff on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @04:21PM (#24136432)
There are two counter-arguments to that:

1) UPS is not allowed to deliver first class mail to a letterbox, or at the same cost as USPS.

2) Why should short-distance mail subsidize long-distance mail?

Re:How Are Postmaster General Louis DeJoy's Changes Affectin... by triceratops on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @04:46PM (#24136766)
> UPS is not allowed to deliver first class mail to a letterbox,

So? They regularly leave packages on your porch, they'd do the same for letters.

> or at the same cost as USPS.

Which is insanely low and money-losing in many cases. And first-class mail is a declining business. Do they even want that?

Re:How Are Postmaster General Louis DeJoy's Changes Affectin... by nickff on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @04:51PM (#24136823)
I was responding to a comment that said: "The day that UPS will be obligated to deliver a first-class letter... for 55 cents". UPS is legally required to charge at least six times more, and cannot use letterboxes.[1] The use of letterboxes is a cost-savings; if it were not a competitive advantage, the USPS wouldn't need a law protecting it.

Whether or not UPS wants the business is beside the point, and they currently cannot have it.

[1] https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/39/601

Re:How Are Postmaster General Louis DeJoy's Changes Affectin... by vkou on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @08:23PM (#24138708)
> Whether or not UPS wants the business is beside the point, and they currently cannot have it.

It's the entire point actually.

The key part of my post is:

> The day that UPS will be obligated... to deliver a letter for 55 cents

The USPS is forced to provide this service - at a ridiculously low price. The second that UPS and Fedex have to play by the same rules (By being forced to deliver negative-margin mail), they will stop being profitable.

Re:How Are Postmaster General Louis DeJoy's Changes Affectin... by triceratops on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @05:55PM (#24137477)
The letterbox might have been a competitive advantage when people weren't accustomed to having stuff delivered to their porch. Not anymore. Ditto for a first-class mail monopoly - advantageous when people actually wrote letters, practically useless today.
Re:How Are Postmaster General Louis DeJoy's Changes Affectin... by nickff on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @06:19PM (#24137700)
Letterbox delivery is a competitive advantage because it saves money on delivery; the driver can often drop letters off in a mail room at a multi-unit dwelling, or by the road in the suburbs/rural areas.

We're only talking about first-class mail here, so a 6x cost advantage in first-class mail is very important.