Re:Mozilla has laid off their dev tools people and the entir...
by uallo on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @10:54AM
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MDN is a Wiki. Everybody can contribute.
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Re:Mozilla has laid off their dev tools people and the entir...
by wizzwizz4 on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @10:57AM
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Doesn't mean everybody will. Wikipedia is a weird special-case. I've contributed once to MDN, ever, and I use it all the time.
Re:Mozilla has laid off their dev tools people and the entir...
by emidln on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @10:59AM
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Also if the team that was supporting it is gone, will the deployment just bit rot and die?
Re:Mozilla has laid off their dev tools people and the entir...
by dhimes on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @11:00AM
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I'm not even sure I want everyone contributing, at least not without some pruning.
Re:Mozilla has laid off their dev tools people and the entir...
by wizzwizz4 on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @11:02AM
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Sparse documentation is better than wrong documentation.
Re:Mozilla has laid off their dev tools people and the entir...
by xanderstrike on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @11:40AM
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I've never come across a page on MDN I felt I could contribute to since it's so complete, but if I were to come across out of date docs I absolutely would. I imagine it's similar for a lot of folks.
Re:Mozilla has laid off their dev tools people and the entir...
by sireat on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @12:09PM
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MDN has some Python tutorials that are of lesser quality than HTML,CSS,JS MDN docs.
Those could use some work.
Re:Mozilla has laid off their dev tools people and the entir...
by olmideso on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @04:15PM
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Usually there are only a handful percents of overall users who actually create content compared to "read-only" users. There is nothing special about wikipedia, the same thing applies for sites like youtube,reddit, etc.
The same will apply for MDN as well, so if you haven't contributed there, this doesn't mean that nobody will.
Re:Mozilla has laid off their dev tools people and the entir...
by Hamuko on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @11:09AM
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>Wikipedia is a weird special-case.
Is it?
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/7x47bb/wikipedia-editors-...
Re:Mozilla has laid off their dev tools people and the entir...
by Earwig on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @11:13AM
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This is the nature of any community platform [0]. Most people will just fix small issues they see or contribute a little in an area that appeals to them, and aren't interested in becoming heavily active. I don't see Wikipedia as special in this case, it's just so large that the 1% has enough critical mass to maintain it (well, mostly).
0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule_(Internet_culture)
Re:Mozilla has laid off their dev tools people and the entir...
by Hamuko on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @11:18AM
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>Most people will just fix small issues they see or contribute a little in an area that appeals to them
Wikipedia makes this very difficult as well. I had to submit a small update to sales numbers for the best-selling video game franchises of all time THREE times because two separate admins reverted my edits for the most stupid reasons possible. Then they had some hand-wringing about the lack of sources (even though most of the data there wasn't sourced any better) before they stubbornly decided to stop reverting my edits. A less stubborn person would've given up editing Wikipedia after the first or even the second reversion.
Re:Mozilla has laid off their dev tools people and the entir...
by detaro on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @11:04AM
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But e.g. Google teams working on web specs do at least. But I don't have data how the contributions are split, and maintenance is of course a concern.
Re:Mozilla has laid off their dev tools people and the entir...
by brundolf on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @11:04AM
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Is the source data openly available, though? You can't exactly "fork" a wiki, normally. I'm concerned lots of crucial knowledge would be lost if Mozilla decided not to host it any more.
Re:Mozilla has laid off their dev tools people and the entir...
by detaro on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @11:34AM
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Many wikis, MDN included, have all content under an open license, and even run open-source software, and thus can be forked if necessary.
Re:Mozilla has laid off their dev tools people and the entir...
by brundolf on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @11:45AM
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But is the content made readily available in the original markup (wiki markup, markdown, whatever), or would you have to scrape everything from the website? Wiki content is normally stored in a database, and presumably that database isn't just open to the world to query directly
Re:Mozilla has laid off their dev tools people and the entir...
by detaro on Thursday August 13, 2020 @05:56AM
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Many wikis have open APIs (e.g. mediawiki instances typically do). Not sure about MDNs custom thing, but scraping is always an alternative - or even working off one of the HTML dumps available for offline use (although loosing history and original format sucks).
Re:Mozilla has laid off their dev tools people and the entir...
by brundolf on Thursday August 13, 2020 @11:02AM
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Theoretically since you can edit the original-format content from the website, you could scrape it from the website. I'm just wondering if this is something anybody is thinking about/working on.