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Re:China hires over 100 TSMC engineers in push for chip lead... by jjoonathan on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @09:14AM (#24131724)
Once you know how to chain thermonuclear stages, you can obtain arbitrarily high yield without further advances in technology. The Americans pioneered this technique, they just didn't bother building as big of a chain.

At a certain point bigger yields are less desirable than more, smaller yields. Picture an enormous spherical fireball, then picture chopping it up and using the "useless" slices that were at high/negative altitude to instead cover more ground. Once it became clear that they were past the regime of yield scaling, the Americans moved on to developing smaller warheads that could do just that: pepper targets and deliver more devastation per pound than a corresponding single warhead of high yield.

Vanity metrics are always more important to the second place player, and that's what Tsar Bomba was.

Re:China hires over 100 TSMC engineers in push for chip lead... by paganel on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @01:06PM (#24134161)
From the outside this sounds like rationalisation.
Re:China hires over 100 TSMC engineers in push for chip lead... by jjoonathan on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @03:00PM (#24135527)
That's why the USSR did it. Tsar Bomba is still serving its purpose 60 years later!

The USSR's followup actions give it away, though: they stopped pursuing higher yields, even though there was no theoretical or engineering limit prohibiting them, and instead chased the USA down the path of miniaturization. SLBMs and MIRVs were the future and everyone knew it.

Re:China hires over 100 TSMC engineers in push for chip lead... by monocasa on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @05:21PM (#24137135)
Everyone stopped pursuing them because the massive falloff of effectiveness at higher yields. The explosions got large enough that the difference in air pressure at higher altitudes meant that more and more of the energy released was going straight up rather than directed at the ground.

I'd call that an engineering limit.

Re:China hires over 100 TSMC engineers in push for chip lead... by jjoonathan on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @05:28PM (#24137218)
It's an engineering limit to effectiveness but not an engineering limit to higher yield. I think we agree and are just nailing down the terminology here.
Re:China hires over 100 TSMC engineers in push for chip lead... by SubjectToChange on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @04:23PM (#24136453)
how do you think the missive Tsar bomb was going to be delivered? It would need a bomber which is a vastly inferior method of delivery compared to ICBMs.
Re:China hires over 100 TSMC engineers in push for chip lead... by paganel on Thursday August 13, 2020 @03:27AM (#24140827)
The Tupolev Tu-95 is a very nice piece of machinery [1]. Speaking of ICBMs, I also think the Soviets were better at this compared to the Americans, their military had a dedicated Army branch for it, unlike the US.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-95

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Missile_Forces

Re:China hires over 100 TSMC engineers in push for chip lead... by monocasa on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @05:19PM (#24137118)
Both the US and Russia still use bombers despite having ICBMS and SLBMs. Bombers are an important piece of the nuclear triad.