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Re:China hires over 100 TSMC engineers in push for chip lead... by asa4akj on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @07:00AM (#24130666)
And with a relentless ethno-state dictatorship supporting those advances, it can get there even faster.
Re:China hires over 100 TSMC engineers in push for chip lead... by rl3 on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @07:45AM (#24131009)
Sadly their planning is coherent and logical. This move will in turn support its goal of AI leadership by 2030.[0]

I don't want to live in a world where such a dictatorship has a technological advantage so large they become the new superpower.

Unfortunately authoritarian governments are less impacted than liberal democracies by everything from social media polarization, to covid, to long-term planning shortcomings.

[0] https://multimedia.scmp.com/news/china/article/2166148/china...

Re:China hires over 100 TSMC engineers in push for chip lead... by xenospn on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @06:10PM (#24137630)
China doesn't have social media polarization.
Re:China hires over 100 TSMC engineers in push for chip lead... by rl3 on Thursday August 13, 2020 @12:08PM (#24144864)
Precisely.
Re:China hires over 100 TSMC engineers in push for chip lead... by libertine on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @07:20AM (#24130833)
And by disregarding intelectual property and stealing technology, they get even a faster boost.

I mean, those who play CIV know what I'm talking about.

Re:China hires over 100 TSMC engineers in push for chip lead... by jetzzz on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @07:40AM (#24130975)
Somehow much more democratic Taiwan and South Korea (Samsung) got there faster than dictatorship China.
Re:China hires over 100 TSMC engineers in push for chip lead... by FooBarWidget on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @08:27AM (#24131325)
Didn't Taiwan and South Korea got most of their growth during their dictatorship years?
Re:China hires over 100 TSMC engineers in push for chip lead... by actuator on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @08:46AM (#24131479)
Yeah, like in case of SK, before 90s(when it was mostly under dictatorships) it recorded double digit GDP growth in about half of the years. In contrast from 90s onwards they recorded > 10% GDP growth rate just in 2 years out of the 30. Though in fairness, they had less of a ceiling to grow in.
Re:China hires over 100 TSMC engineers in push for chip lead... by chillacy on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @10:39PM (#24139425)
Yup, and social liberalization has followed economic success for SK and Taiwan. A lot of people thought it would happen to China as well but it's been resistant.

I find OP's assertion a bit comical because trying to tie governance model to economic success in Asia would mean that you should definitely pick military dictatorship over democracy if you want economic success. (and if you do pick democracy, pick an authoritarian flavor with state involvement like Singapore or Japan)

Re:China hires over 100 TSMC engineers in push for chip lead... by FooBarWidget on Thursday August 13, 2020 @01:40AM (#24140267)
I don’t know where this “China did not change” narrative comes from. 40 years ago, Chinese people could not choose where to work, what to wear, where to live, what to study, where to travel. During the Cultural Revolution, neighbors could rat you out for “colluding with the enemy”, whatever that means. All of that has changed. Hundreds of millions of Chinese travel abroad every year, and nearly everybody returns willingly. What part of this great change looks like “China did not become more free”? It isn’t even some footnote fact, it’s a huge boulder staring in people’s face, and people can’t see it.
Re:China hires over 100 TSMC engineers in push for chip lead... by chillacy on Thursday August 13, 2020 @04:53PM (#24148935)
The mainstream view in America has been that political liberalization necessarily means "one person one vote democracy". Most can see China's economic progress, but early on there was hope that economic progress would lead to social reforms too.

Speaking of people not being able to see it...

Lee Kwan Yew gave a pretty fantastic speech to journalists where he basically covered, from first principles, why his country had different laws around freedom of press and how other channels of accountability exist in Singapore to compensate. Then the journalists proceed to ask pretty dumb questions framed as "singapore is a dictatorship because it has no free press".

https://www.c-span.org/video/?2217-1/world-perspective-press

Re:China hires over 100 TSMC engineers in push for chip lead... by dumb1224 on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @08:29AM (#24131344)
Well not commenting on the difference in systems, you only need to look at the founders of these companies. The Taiwan / South Korea world top U.S univ graduates vastly out number the chinese ones. I doubt some even got a good education at all.