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Re:Ask HN: Self-taught webdev with lots of free time. What s... by bashwizard on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @06:33AM (#24130453)
Get into security, specifically web app security pentesting.

You'll thank me later.

Re:Ask HN: Self-taught webdev with lots of free time. What s... by thatcodingdude on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @06:36AM (#24130477)
This and the servers/linux stuff is the most interesting part of my job. I do have my doubts about being able to get into it since I suppose you really have to master low level dev (which I don't) and I don't think I can get a job as self-taught in this field.
Re:Ask HN: Self-taught webdev with lots of free time. What s... by bashwizard on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @06:41AM (#24130512)
Why not try it out by start messing around with it and get a feel for it? But to answer your question: no, you don't. You already have more than enough prerequisites for an easier transition.

https://pentesterlab.com

https://portswigger.net/web-security

Have fun!

Edit: I'm completely self-taught and I've been working in the field for a few years. No dev or even IT background prior to getting into network pentesting and web app pentesting.

Re:Ask HN: Self-taught webdev with lots of free time. What s... by thatcodingdude on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @06:56AM (#24130634)
Neat, thanks for the advice. Pentesting got a spot on mr. learning list's wild ride.
Re:Ask HN: Self-taught webdev with lots of free time. What s... by ta17711771 on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @09:46AM (#24132020)
> I don't think I can get a job as self-taught in this field.

Good security firms are the last ones to gatekeep over a degree or other paper.

Re:Ask HN: Self-taught webdev with lots of free time. What s... by frenchman99 on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @08:30AM (#24131351)
If you like devops and security, have a look at SRE (Site Reliability Engineering) positions. Companies look for software engineers to fill these positions. And you'll work on security related stuff. Not necessarily pen-testing per se, but network security, operational security, etc.

Also, teams with SRE expertise most likely use modern tech because SRE itself is a rather new way of managing infrastructure. So you'll probably be able to get your hands dirty with lots of cool tech.

Re:Ask HN: Self-taught webdev with lots of free time. What s... by thatcodingdude on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @09:01AM (#24131609)
Nice, thought you needed sysadmin background for SRE. I'll look into that, thanks.
Re:Ask HN: Self-taught webdev with lots of free time. What s... by pakwa on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @10:38AM (#24132451)
Curious - why do you suggest this field?
Re:Ask HN: Self-taught webdev with lots of free time. What s... by bashwizard on Thursday August 13, 2020 @02:27AM (#24140528)
It's a rapidly growing field that has more jobs than people. Meaning, at this point if you have a solid dev background and strong practical skills in security you're most likely going to make bank.

While anecdoctally speaking, I know people who switched from senior dev positions at two of the FAANG companies to smaller security companies and basically doubled their income and making north of $500k/year.

Re:Ask HN: Self-taught webdev with lots of free time. What s... by thatcodingdude on Thursday August 13, 2020 @05:43AM (#24141546)
Any way to contact you for learning/career advice ?
Re:Ask HN: Self-taught webdev with lots of free time. What s... by bashwizard on Thursday August 13, 2020 @06:29AM (#24141818)
What I can share is my roadmap how I manage to break into the field without any prior professional IT experience.

1) Linux. Learn it and live in it.

2) Linux servers and databases.

3) CompTIA Network+ (only for the knowledge, didn't bother getting the cert)

4) CompTIA Security+ (same as above)

5) OSCP certification (not a golden ticken by any means but it helps to bypass HR)

That's basically it. While going down that road I focused on hands-on practice by actually hacking into machines with the help of following resources:

A) Hack The box (hackthebox.eu)

B) PentesterLab (pentesterlab.com)

I also really like Portswigger's Web Security Academy (portswigger.net) and Try Hack Me (tryhackme.com) but they weren't around when I was starting out but I would definitely check them out, especially if I was completely new to security today.

All in all it took me roughly a year but get comfortable enough to start applying to junior pentesting positions and eventually I got hired.

There are probably better and easier ways to do it but that's how I did it at least.

Re:Ask HN: Self-taught webdev with lots of free time. What s... by dencodev on Friday August 14, 2020 @01:48AM (#24154155)
Hey thanks for this! I'm a senior dev and I just left my job. I'm going to be learning and studying full time but hopefully it doesn't take an entire year before I can get a job
Re:Ask HN: Self-taught webdev with lots of free time. What s... by 1qazxsw23edc on Friday August 14, 2020 @01:00AM (#24153751)
Not OP but did you got a remote position after learning and practising all this because I'm interested in only remote positions.
Re:Ask HN: Self-taught webdev with lots of free time. What s... by bashwizard on Friday August 14, 2020 @01:45AM (#24154133)
I did not get a remote position. I eventually left the company though and started do consulting instead so I'm mostly working remote (and 100% at this point due to covid).
Re:Ask HN: Self-taught webdev with lots of free time. What s... by 1qazxsw23edc on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @01:09AM (#24195481)
ok, thanks.
Re:Ask HN: Self-taught webdev with lots of free time. What s... by thatcodingdude on Thursday August 13, 2020 @09:16AM (#24143007)
Thanks a lot !
Re:Ask HN: Self-taught webdev with lots of free time. What s... by dencodev on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @11:11AM (#24132823)
I'm looking to go into this field too and would also like to hear why