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Re:TSA considers new system for flyers without ID by pb7 on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @02:56PM (#24124362)
* you don't have the right to drive

Is it a "right" if it can be taken away? You can definitely be prohibited from driving for things like DUIs.

>* you don't have the right to walk on interstates

This is already the case.

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Re:TSA considers new system for flyers without ID by Fargren on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @04:12PM (#24125414)
> Is it a "right" if it can be taken away?

Of course. Every person that was ever murdered had a right to live, even when it was taken away. Would you say that they didn't?

Rights exists regardless of whether they are respected, that's what makes them rights.

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Re:TSA considers new system for flyers without ID by pb7 on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @04:25PM (#24125551)
Taken away illegally, hence a "murder". It's not a right if it can be legally taken away by your government. Speech is a right. Driving is a privilege.
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Re:TSA considers new system for flyers without ID by Fargren on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @04:51PM (#24125824)
Rights are not granted by governments, they are recognized by governments. They exist as part of our culture.
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Re:TSA considers new system for flyers without ID by a1369209993 on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @12:48AM (#24128680)
Rights are not granted by culture, they are recognized by culture. They exist regardless of whether they are violated.
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