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Re:Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on comm... by stingraycharles on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @12:35PM (#24122282)
> I get the feeling from this thread that some people think the only conceivable purpose of Mozilla is to maintain an independent browser, and if they can't do that they may as well shut down

This is exactly how I feel about Mozilla indeed. Their only relevance to me is their browser, I don’t care much about the rest. If a “privacy not included guide” is the best example of other value they add, this strongly confirms it from my point of view.

Re:Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on comm... by takluyver on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @12:53PM (#24122518)
Perhaps the disconnect is that Mozilla's goals are not just the bits you care about. If all you're saying is that they should double down on Firefox and ignore everything else because that's what you want, that's not a very interesting argument.

Even if you believe Firefox is the only goal, though... Mozilla needs money to develop it. Despite all the technical effort that's gone into it in recent years, Firefox is still losing marketshare. Maybe there's some killer feature that will turn it around. But so far tracking protection doesn't seem to have done it, and there's not that many other features that Google can't copy. So if you still want Firefox to be useful in 10 years, there's a real chance it will be need to be subsidised by something like Mozilla VPN.

Re:Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on comm... by stingraycharles on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @01:38PM (#24123179)
> If all you're saying is that they should double down on Firefox and ignore everything else because that's what you want, that's not a very interesting argument.

I started this discussion with the point that I’m not donating to Mozilla, because I don’t want my donations to go to their other projects. Mozilla is of course free to do with their resources what they want, it’s just that they should not be expecting my support in that case.

I personally prefer to fund established projects and developers with donations, I just don’t consider Mozilla very good at starting new projects. I want to fund and support Firefox and that’s it, and there’s currently no way to do so. And with that, comes my criticism of how they are using their resources that I can fund.

Re:Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on comm... by jacquesm on Tuesday August 11, 2020 @01:54PM (#24123430)
Precisely. All they would have to do is to allow you to earmark your funds 'Just for FireFox' and to pinky swear they would not commingle that with their general pot for pet projects.

But it is set up exactly in the contrary manner, without much in terms of any guarantees about what the budgetary division will be leaving FireFox as the collector but not the recipient of the bulk of those funds. Imagine where FireFox would be if not for all those non-starter projects and products that drain resources make it to launch and then get axed quietly 3 months later.