News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Uber and Lyft ordered by California judge to classify dri... by JMTQp8lwXL on Monday August 10, 2020 @06:13PM (#24114656)
Agreeing to a rate != setting your rate, and having the counter-party agree or disagree to your rate.
Re:Uber and Lyft ordered by California judge to classify dri... by munk-a on Monday August 10, 2020 @06:19PM (#24114731)
In actuality these actions aren't so different, I could offer my services to Microsoft at 200k an hour and they're free to decline me.

I think the real issue here can't be resolved by an examination of terms - it involves a power dynamic where Uber contractors are extremely at disadvantage when it comes to being able to set your own rates. I don't know if Uber even has someone on staff that's qualified or expected to negotiate with independent drives that are interested - they have a posted rate that you either accept or they walk away. And, the worst part, they change that posted rate for BS reasons constantly in a way that people can't predict, it makes for an unreliable and misleading income.

Re:Uber and Lyft ordered by California judge to classify dri... by chrisseaton on Monday August 10, 2020 @07:04PM (#24115183)
Every software contract I've ever seen offers $x a day, or hour, or whatever.

They don't just let you go in demanding whatever you want. There's a limit to what they want to pay. Just like Uber.

Re:Uber and Lyft ordered by California judge to classify dri... by JMTQp8lwXL on Wednesday August 12, 2020 @12:34AM (#24128620)
When it comes to standard W2 employment, an employer can also list $X/hr or an annual salary.

You can absolutely go in and demand whatever you want. If you ask for 3x, you probably won't get the job. But 5% or 10% over x? It's possible. I don't see how contracting is 'locked in'. You are certainly free to negotiate, unlike on Uber or Lyft's platform.