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Re:Sweatpants Forever: How the Fashion Industry Collapsed by coldtea on Sunday August 09, 2020 @08:12PM (#24104103)
>Women have an expectation to express themselves and their personality.

Personality is expressed through choice of cut, material, and color of cloth?

Re:Sweatpants Forever: How the Fashion Industry Collapsed by kbenson on Sunday August 09, 2020 @08:33PM (#24104230)
People definitely attempt to do so, and sometimes do so subconsciously. Some people dress for how they want to be seen or aspire to be, others dress as a reflection of their environment, including those they associate with, and that sometimes reflects the prevailing attitude and beliefs of that group (and sometimes not).

A simple example of this might be a haircut. Whether accurate or not, a mohawk often signals something to other people (and sometimes signals something the person that wears it, like "I may be ties down with more responsibilities, but I won't let that define me").

I like to think most my clothing choices are made because of practical matters such as comfort and fit, but even within my normal range of jeans to shorts and t-shirts to polo shirts (and maybe the less formal button-up shirt), there's definitely things that fit that criteria that don't feel like they fit how I think of myself. And that's as a man, where I think expectations to do with style and clothing are much simpler.

Re:Sweatpants Forever: How the Fashion Industry Collapsed by prostoalex on Monday August 10, 2020 @12:37AM (#24105601)
Some companies work hard at convincing the customers that the best venue for expressing their individual personality traits are mass-produced designs of those specific companies (e.g. Hot Topic, Forever 21).

For what it's worth, they develop a loyal following.

Re:Sweatpants Forever: How the Fashion Industry Collapsed by piva00 on Monday August 10, 2020 @04:55AM (#24107028)
Yes, it is. Just like you have a taste in music, doesn't music express your personality somehow? It's all a matter of notes, timing and timbre.

The same with clothes: the choice of textures say something about you, the choice of cuts say something, the choice of colour the same. The thing is: the clothes you wear need to resonate with you to become part of your expression.

It's not that your clothes = your personality, but the choices you've done consciously will tell someone else about you, the same as looking around your book shelves at home. The thing is: you need to care about you are wearing for it to become something expressive.

With my clothes I can signal a lot of stuff to others that are into the same things I am, I can signal hobbies, I can signal that I care about a particular type of material or cut, and so on.

If not then you are just being practical and wearing what is expected from you, nothing wrong with that but don't judge and put others down because they take this more into consideration than you do.

Re:Sweatpants Forever: How the Fashion Industry Collapsed by andrewflnr on Sunday August 09, 2020 @08:58PM (#24104382)
I don't get how it works either, but yes, 100%.
Re:Sweatpants Forever: How the Fashion Industry Collapsed by CathedralBorrow on Monday August 10, 2020 @05:30AM (#24107247)
What is the correct way to express personality in your view?
Re:Sweatpants Forever: How the Fashion Industry Collapsed by magic_beans on Sunday August 09, 2020 @08:37PM (#24104249)
Don't be dense. Whether you admit it or not, most people judge others based on appearance.
Re:Sweatpants Forever: How the Fashion Industry Collapsed by coldtea on Sunday August 09, 2020 @09:17PM (#24104521)
Don't be denser, judging others by their appereance is shallow. The fact that people still do it doesn't mean that when you change your clothes that's any kind of expression proper.

It's just a cheap way to signal something that you might or might not be, and only superficially at that.

Re:Sweatpants Forever: How the Fashion Industry Collapsed by Broken_Hippo on Monday August 10, 2020 @05:57AM (#24107422)
Yes, don't treat people badly (mostly) because of the way they look.

But be realistic. Someone that wears all black has made a choice just like the person that is always fashionable with lots of clothing. Some beard and hairstyles take more work than others. These are lifestyle choices people make. Someone knowing how to do 20 hairstyles to get their hair off of their neck decided to learn that instead of something else. A man with a complicated beard style probably spends some time daily on it to keep it up. A person with nails half the length of the fingers they are attached to probably eshews some practical things simply because the nails are in the way. A person that wears traditional clothing due to religion probably isn't a good candidate to date me.

I understand that being poor might make it so you don't have a lot of choices in these things. I've been there: My look was basically whatever I was forced to wear to work and whatever I could find at thrift stores. At the end of the day, though, I still had choice -and to discount what these choices tell others about you is, in itself, dense - as is discounting that humanity often makes snap judgements based entirely on how things look.

Re:Sweatpants Forever: How the Fashion Industry Collapsed by triceratops on Monday August 10, 2020 @12:48AM (#24105652)
You use "cheap" as a pejorative, but it's actually a positive. By signaling that you are X, or believe yourself to be X, (where X can be anything - gender, hobbies, wealth, social class whatever) you gain the interest of everyone who is seeking X without needing to speak to them. And save the time of everyone who isn't interested in X. It's a cheap, efficient way to filter people. Is it perfect? Heck no. But humans are often happy to sacrifice accuracy for speed.
Re:Sweatpants Forever: How the Fashion Industry Collapsed by watwut on Monday August 10, 2020 @02:05AM (#24106072)
People are shallow. And cheap signalling is best signalling, no reason to be wasteful.
Re:Sweatpants Forever: How the Fashion Industry Collapsed by ubercow13 on Monday August 10, 2020 @08:40AM (#24108601)
What's a good way to judge people?