Re:Water beetles that survive being swallowed by frogs
by ycombinete on Saturday August 08, 2020 @10:45PM
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Possibly a first evolutionary step to becoming an internal parasite.
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Re:Water beetles that survive being swallowed by frogs
by justinclift on Sunday August 09, 2020 @12:43AM
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Also, a way for the intestinal flora of frogs to be spread to other frogs.
Which may be fairly unique in itself?
That could have all kinds of other weird and wonderful follow on effects for the frog population.
Re:Water beetles that survive being swallowed by frogs
by thaumasiotes on Sunday August 09, 2020 @12:48AM
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> Also, a way for the intestinal flora of frogs to be spread to other frogs.
> Which may be fairly unique in itself?
Considering the number of diseases that are spread, human to human, by oral consumption of feces - probably not.
Re:Water beetles that survive being swallowed by frogs
by akiselev on Sunday August 09, 2020 @05:02AM
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There are mammals like rabbits that eat their own feces to get a second pass at digestion. Evolution has created an unbelievable amount of diversity in the natural world - it's a mistake to judge it by our own immune systems.
Re:Water beetles that survive being swallowed by frogs
by buran77 on Sunday August 09, 2020 @09:03AM
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GP may have been objecting to the uniqueness of the trait, not its existence.
Re:Water beetles that survive being swallowed by frogs
by justinclift on Sunday August 09, 2020 @10:28AM
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Nah, I'd just not been able to think off hand of an example of intestinal flora being shared (potentially widely) among members of a species.
The rabbits example is a good one to illustrate it already does happen. :)
Re:Water beetles that survive being swallowed by frogs
by thaumasiotes on Sunday August 09, 2020 @03:25PM
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Again, it is already known to be very common in humans.
Re:Water beetles that survive being swallowed by frogs
by justinclift on Sunday August 09, 2020 @10:05PM
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You seem to be saying oral consumption of other people's faeces is common in humans. What's the evidence for this?
Personally, I'm aware of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_feces#Fecal_transplants, but that's all.
Re:Water beetles that survive being swallowed by frogs
by thaumasiotes on Sunday August 09, 2020 @10:26PM
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It is the only reproductive strategy of several major diseases, most notably cholera. So yes, obviously it is common. You know how cholera is notorious for spreading through communities very quickly? Guess how that happens.
Intentional consumption of other people's feces is rare, but that's not relevant to anything. If you eat something, it doesn't matter at all whether you wanted to eat it.
Re:Water beetles that survive being swallowed by frogs
by justinclift on Sunday August 09, 2020 @11:18PM
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Interesting, thanks. :)