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Re:HBO Max drops Linux support in all browsers? by iakov on Saturday August 08, 2020 @05:27PM (#24095384)
Can you explain how piracy is stealing?
Re:HBO Max drops Linux support in all browsers? by Andrew_nenakhov on Saturday August 08, 2020 @07:03PM (#24095933)
Please, stop calling it 'piracy'. To quote rms:

"When record companies make a fuss about the danger of "piracy", they're not talking about violent attacks on shipping. What they complain about is the sharing of copies of music, an activity in which millions of people participate in a spirit of cooperation. The term "piracy" is used by record companies to demonize sharing and cooperation by equating them to kidnaping, murder and theft." [1]

[1]: https://stallman.org/articles/end-war-on-sharing.html

Re:HBO Max drops Linux support in all browsers? by yongjik on Saturday August 08, 2020 @07:07PM (#24095951)
The irony is that free software requires copyright enforcement as precondition. I mean, if a company takes a GPL'ed code, modifies it, and sells it to another willing party without following GPL's terms, what does the original author materially lose?
Re:HBO Max drops Linux support in all browsers? by Andrew_nenakhov on Saturday August 08, 2020 @07:33PM (#24096087)
It is not the irony. The core idea of GPL is to fight proprietary software with its own weapon.

Also, I think that you misunderstand the GPL terms. The aggrieved party in this hypothetical case is not the original author, it is the buyer of this modified software, whose rights to four essential freedoms [1] would be violated. These violations have a very real material cost.

BTw, it is common for people to believe that GPL requires publishing source codes on the Internet. It is not so. The requirement is to provide the user of a program source codes, so he can exercise the guaranteed freedoms. You can do it in any suitable form, publishing code is just the most convenient way to do it, but not mandatory.

[1]: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html

Re:HBO Max drops Linux support in all browsers? by yongjik on Saturday August 08, 2020 @08:16PM (#24096309)
Hence the clarification "willing party". A company "pirates" a GPL'd code, creates its own derivative version, slaps a sticker saying "This is proprietary code, if you want to see the source then go buy from somewhere else." Someone is willing to buy the product, they are both happy. Just like two internet users sharing copyrighted files.
Re:HBO Max drops Linux support in all browsers? by Andrew_nenakhov on Sunday August 09, 2020 @10:43AM (#24099933)
People can be coerced (fooled, cheated, etc) into believing that they are 'willingly' abandon their rights. This hypothetical example isn't similar to the case we're discussing here in this thread.
Re:HBO Max drops Linux support in all browsers? by globalproctd on Saturday August 08, 2020 @05:28PM (#24095396)
Read all the other comments.
Re:HBO Max drops Linux support in all browsers? by iakov on Saturday August 08, 2020 @05:31PM (#24095412)
Your definition of "theft" is a bit too broad, don't you think?

Usually theft means that the original owner is deprived of goods - they can't use them, can't sell them, they simply don't the the original item. This is simply not the case for digital goods. HBO won't lose money when I download GOT, won't they?

Re:HBO Max drops Linux support in all browsers? by cortesoft on Saturday August 08, 2020 @05:38PM (#24095453)
If it was totally legal to pirate all content, why would anyone pay for it? And if no one pays for content, why would HBO finance its creation?

It is disingenuous to say piracy doesn’t cost anything to the content creators.

Re:HBO Max drops Linux support in all browsers? by iakov on Saturday August 08, 2020 @05:43PM (#24095486)
It is totally legal to pirate content where I live now, and where I've lived before. Still, I pay for video games on Steam or for Spotify. Hell I even buy music on Bandcamp. I do this because it's convenient and because I want to support creators.

However, when a creator goes out of their way to alienate me as a customer - by either dropping support for my platform, or by region-blocking - I happily put on my pirate hat and get what I want for free. There is no other viable choice for me.

Re:HBO Max drops Linux support in all browsers? by Andrew_nenakhov on Saturday August 08, 2020 @07:00PM (#24095917)
Steam is successful not because piracy is illegal. It is successful because it made buying games more convenient than pirating it. It is far easier to click, pay, get content than torrenting stuff and finding correct cracks/keygens, etc.

I have bought a great deal of games I played in 1990s (pirated, of course - there simply did not exist a way to buy games legally in Russia at that time), just because I liked them back then.

Also, please stop calling copyright infringement 'piracy'. Piracy is a dangerous penal crime involving violence and an open theft of possessions. It has nothing to do with copying information.

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Re:HBO Max drops Linux support in all browsers? by iakov on Saturday August 08, 2020 @05:39PM (#24095465)
No, they should not. Haven't you seen the news? They've dropped support for my platform. Why should they receive money from me, for anything?

Also - thanks for showing your true colors so early. At least I know that engaging with you is pointless.

Re:HBO Max drops Linux support in all browsers? by globalproctd on Saturday August 08, 2020 @05:51PM (#24095539)
lol, not sure why I'd want to engage with someone who thinks stealing is fine.