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Re:Oatly: The New Coke? by schmidt87 on Saturday August 08, 2020 @08:02AM (#24090964)
This is substantially incorrect, especially for France [1]: While cows indeed aren't grown in intensive farming in France, 95% of pork in France is raised in intensive factory farming, and other species have similar stats. Most of the western world has similar stats.

This is far from a US-only problem.

[1] https://www.liberation.fr/france/2018/06/04/porcs-bovins-vol...

Re:Oatly: The New Coke? by flyinglizard on Saturday August 08, 2020 @08:09AM (#24091017)
I was specifically talking about dairy farming. Pork, chicken and beef all have their own issues. The average USA farm size is about 220 cows vs. about 70 cows in France, and the practices used in Europe as a whole are more humane (my numbers are from closed market studies published by IFCN). These animals are very well monitored and cared for. I wouldn't want to change place with them, but then I also wouldn't trade places with many other humans around the world.
Re:Oatly: The New Coke? by schmidt87 on Saturday August 08, 2020 @08:26AM (#24091114)
I agree that cows are better off in France, but this is an anomaly.
Re:Oatly: The New Coke? by kwhitefoot on Saturday August 08, 2020 @12:27PM (#24092856)
They are to some extent better off in Norway too, although their lot should still be improved.