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Re:The Matrix Was Intended to Be a Trans Story, Says Lilly W... by why_only_15 on Saturday August 08, 2020 @12:32AM (#24088987)
this isn't some fan fiction or whatever this is literally the director of the movie. why do you think she's lying?
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Re:The Matrix Was Intended to Be a Trans Story, Says Lilly W... by Pfhreak on Saturday August 08, 2020 @12:47AM (#24089065)
> Especially if they concern a new political issue that more or less didn’t exist at the time the work came out.

The fight for trans rights very, very much existed in the 1990s. To suggest that trans rights is somehow a recent phenomena ignores a whole lot of history.

Re:The Matrix Was Intended to Be a Trans Story, Says Lilly W... by alicemaz on Saturday August 08, 2020 @12:56AM (#24089116)
a lot of stuff in the twitter thread is eyerolling english undergrad turning everything into a literal symbol for essay points, sort of thing. but it is kinda true that the plot of movie is a morose depressed practically catatonic hacker guy feels trapped and cut off from authentic experience until a symbolic rebirth frees him to grow into the entity he was always meant to be
Re:The Matrix Was Intended to Be a Trans Story, Says Lilly W... by blevs on Saturday August 08, 2020 @12:38AM (#24089020)
Before she transitioned. You wouldn't refer to a gay person before they came out as straight, right?
Re:The Matrix Was Intended to Be a Trans Story, Says Lilly W... by anonunivgrad on Saturday August 08, 2020 @12:41AM (#24089032)
I’m not up on what the latest orthodoxy on this is. But plenty of people have transitioned back and forth. And haven’t we also been told that gender is “fluid”?
Re:The Matrix Was Intended to Be a Trans Story, Says Lilly W... by Pfhreak on Saturday August 08, 2020 @12:44AM (#24089050)
I'm genderfluid. And gender is fluid for some people, but other folks have very fixed gender identities.
Re:The Matrix Was Intended to Be a Trans Story, Says Lilly W... by dragonwriter on Saturday August 08, 2020 @03:33PM (#24094454)
> Especially if they concern a new political issue that more or less didn’t exist at the time the work came out.

Wachowski, AFAICT, doesn't tie the movie to trans rights as a political issue (though that had been an issue, though with very little public traction, for quite a while before the movie was made, so if it was going to be addressed in a major motion picture, doing it indirectly and subversively would be natural and necessary). It's incorrect to equate any story about that groups experiences, whether literal or metaphorical, as necessarily being about some political issue involving the group, though it's a common mistake for people outside the group whose only attention to the group is political to make that mistake.

Re:The Matrix Was Intended to Be a Trans Story, Says Lilly W... by bawolff on Saturday August 08, 2020 @12:39AM (#24089024)
This issue definitely existed in 1999
Re:The Matrix Was Intended to Be a Trans Story, Says Lilly W... by moate on Saturday August 08, 2020 @12:39AM (#24089023)
Her evidence: she wrote and directed the film and is explaining her experience and intentions into the art she created.

Yours: ... people lie sometimes?

Why are you a more authoritative expert on this topic? If you don’t feel you are, can you point to someone who is that agrees with you (producers, actors, etc)?

If you can’t, why does this artist explaining their artistic vision feel like something you need to disparage?