Re:Silicon Valley’s Vast Data Collection Should Worry You Mo...
by sirmoveon on Friday August 07, 2020 @08:53PM
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My shit don't stink kinda argument. The majority of the arguments defending the US by comparison, to me comes as propaganda. If you are a patriot American you should be using the Chinesse situation as leverage to get better accountability and transparency from the gov instead of trying to point out how other governmnets are just worst.
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Re:Silicon Valley’s Vast Data Collection Should Worry You Mo...
by amurthy1 on Friday August 07, 2020 @09:02PM
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Sure but the title of the article is saying one is worse than the other, so it's fair to refute that. No one is arguing the US situation is perfect and we shouldn't also seek to make that better.
Re:Silicon Valley’s Vast Data Collection Should Worry You Mo...
by fennecfoxen on Friday August 07, 2020 @09:11PM
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Look, there's a reason China gets the brunt of our ire, and it's not because US based companies are particularly laudable. It's more that China is notorious for its international campaigns to infiltrate foreign institutions, surveil its diaspora, its dissidents, and its political enemies, and use tools like blackmail and threats to apply pressure, using any means possible, to achieve its policy goals, often on foreign soil. China is also noted for its campaigns of systematic repression. When you are in the business of rounding up an ethnic minority for genocide, it does tends to color the discussion.
You can arrange words that make the US and China sound morally equivalent, but when you actually look into it to compare the realities in detail, you see how vapid and empty this approach is.
Re:Silicon Valley’s Vast Data Collection Should Worry You Mo...
by sirmoveon on Friday August 07, 2020 @09:19PM
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Yes, yes. CCP China very bad. But US bunch of hypocrites, historically speaking. In my opinion, this is a great opportunity for the world to use the situation as leverage to keep them both accountable, rather than defend one over the other.
Re:Silicon Valley’s Vast Data Collection Should Worry You Mo...
by newen on Saturday August 08, 2020 @02:54AM
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The US does all of these things. Remember the CIA?
One million Iraqis killed by the US. What is that if not genocide. Currently, civilians are being killed by the US every day with their bombings. More civilians being killed every day by their sanctions. It’s genocide.
Re:Silicon Valley’s Vast Data Collection Should Worry You Mo...
by fennecfoxen on Monday August 10, 2020 @11:00AM
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Sanctions on places like Iran Venezuela are "genocide" in the same sense that silence is violence, i.e. when you don't believe words have meaning, and when you seek to obscure rather than enlighten.