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Re:Silicon Valley’s Vast Data Collection Should Worry You Mo... by 1vuio0pswjnm7 on Friday August 07, 2020 @05:59PM (#24086877)
The threat in the US is not from the government, it is from the private sector. The issue is not what Google wants to do using access to your personal data (sell ads), it is what Google's customers (not users) want to do with access to your personal data.

Government is supposed to keep the private sector honest, so to speak. With weak government, and a private sector with single entities that have more data about citizens than government, the risk is arguably greater.

There are reasonable limits placed on government in the US, but those limits do not apply to the private sector.

Comparisons of China to the US make some sense when based on size, but if ignoring size, comparing the US to China on the issue of digital privacy and propaganda seems strange assuming one is trying to illustrate that the US is some sort of high benchmark. It is arguable there are other countries where citizens are enjoying greater digital privacy and more freedom from propaganda than in the US. It would seem to make more sense to compare the US to those countries.

Re:Silicon Valley’s Vast Data Collection Should Worry You Mo... by aripickar on Friday August 07, 2020 @06:10PM (#24086937)
Google’s customers want to serve you ads so they could buy your products. There’s nothing that they could do to you that is remotely on the scale of what Data Collection in China is capable of doing to you.
Re:Silicon Valley’s Vast Data Collection Should Worry You Mo... by skummetmaelk on Friday August 07, 2020 @07:18PM (#24087411)
Being able to swing public sentiment by showing the right people the right set of "ads" carries a lot of power.
Re:Silicon Valley’s Vast Data Collection Should Worry You Mo... by cromwellian on Friday August 07, 2020 @08:35PM (#24087904)
How about being able to swing public sentiment by

a) funding a massive 50 cent army b) censoring any information the state does not want you to see c) jailing anyone who say the wrong thing with their data d) controlling pretty much your entire life through the social credit system

You guys are drawing lots of false equivalences. Streamers in China have been 'disappeared' for weeks for offenses as harmless as singing the national anthem badly, or saying nice things about Taiwan.

When tech companies start doing this, maybe we'll have an equivalence:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbTXb6bEMfI

Re:Silicon Valley’s Vast Data Collection Should Worry You Mo... by skummetmaelk on Saturday August 08, 2020 @03:25AM (#24089756)
This is not about China. This is about you saying Google having this power is preferable to any government because they are more responsible or whatever.

That is a false choice. The government will always have the power. In a democracy it must be held accountable for that power by its citizens.

Re:Silicon Valley’s Vast Data Collection Should Worry You Mo... by fennecfoxen on Friday August 07, 2020 @09:22PM (#24088151)
Being able to censor public sentiment does too, especially when you can even get others to censor public sentiment on foreign soil for you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blitzchung_controversy
Re:Silicon Valley’s Vast Data Collection Should Worry You Mo... by gruez on Friday August 07, 2020 @10:27PM (#24088445)
>The threat in the US is not from the government, it is from the private sector.

Isn't that covered by the OP? Regardless of the private sector's surveillance capability, they don't have access to violence. This by itself makes it less worse than the CCP.

Re:Silicon Valley’s Vast Data Collection Should Worry You Mo... by MattGaiser on Friday August 07, 2020 @06:16PM (#24086989)
Is there any way to even get a name from the products Google sells to its customers?