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Re:Overcoming Us vs. Them (2017) by shekharshan on Friday August 07, 2020 @03:15PM (#24085488)
As your sense of "I" diminishes the more compassionate and caring you become. The more emotionally resilient you become and the less harmful your decisions are to yourself and others (including animals). This is the core of Buddhist findings.

Having said that, there are religions and ideologies that tend to become a big part of a person's identity. Then their actions become guided by those ideologies.

Re:Overcoming Us vs. Them (2017) by RcouF1uZ4gsC on Friday August 07, 2020 @03:22PM (#24085572)
> As your sense of "I" diminishes the more compassionate and caring you become.

I am not sure that is always the case. I would think that, for example, the women involved in the Charles Manson murders had a diminished sense of I, but they were not compassionate and caring.

Re:Overcoming Us vs. Them (2017) by shekharshan on Friday August 07, 2020 @04:44PM (#24086256)
I was talking about an intuitive realization that there is no "I", rather there is an ongoing constantly changing process that is referred to as "I". This requires years of meditative training. I am not familiar with the case but I doubt very much these women were meditating.
Re:Overcoming Us vs. Them (2017) by chillwaves on Friday August 07, 2020 @04:42PM (#24086235)
I don't see the relevance.

Joining a cult is not the same as diminishing the ego. You don't just supplant your ego with someone else's.

Anyone who loses themselves in a cult of personality is not following the teachings of the Buddhism.

Re:Overcoming Us vs. Them (2017) by loopz on Friday August 07, 2020 @04:56PM (#24086374)
People in organizations routinely fail to acknowledge an ignored ego: The Organizational Ego

The whitepapers and salespeople going on and on about their products, services and companies that nobody cares about?

Yeah, that one! The ideologies and demagogues are even "worse". Not that ego is a bad thing, just in isolation..

Re:Overcoming Us vs. Them (2017) by bingobongo1 on Friday August 07, 2020 @11:20PM (#24088662)
This is so true. I've tried to explain why an organization is the way it is before via cause and effect and some people refuse to believe that there is any sort of subtle force that factors into how organizations turn out.

Even if you point to things like Conway's law they still won't listen sometimes!

The best organizations have compassion for their employees and customers, but it takes right-thinking from the top.

Re:Overcoming Us vs. Them (2017) by loopz on Saturday August 08, 2020 @08:20AM (#24091074)
It might depend on leadership culture. Most people are unprepared for their first management position, and how can they prepare? You even see natural leaders flounder, when put in the same leadership position and culture. The positions are necessary for the organization, but I believe almost nobody has really cracked the nut generally, just for their little trible. Most impactful thing leaders can do is cooperate and bring teams together, in order to accomplish concrete goals and organization. Project Lead is sort of that, but it needs to be continuous instead of temporary and limited scope.
Re:Overcoming Us vs. Them (2017) by bingobongo1 on Saturday August 08, 2020 @09:06AM (#24091351)
Very true.
Re:Overcoming Us vs. Them (2017) by bingobongo1 on Friday August 07, 2020 @11:18PM (#24088653)
Oh good, someone else who is on the right track.

Laughing at the manson family reference from the other comment, that's an example of hostile brainwashing by a cult leader, whereas what is being described here is an exploration of self and the true nature of consciousness, which is compassion.

Shamatha is calm abiding mind, single-pointed meditation, temporary emotional stability.

Vipassana is analytical meditation, wisdom, lasting mental stability through deconstructing the self and other phenomena to repeatedly discover that all is empty at the ultimate level.

Going through this you can then approach the conventional world with more mental stability than just reacting naively to every event and occurrence.