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Re:Facebook Fired Employee Who Collected Evidence of Potenti... by nradov on Friday August 07, 2020 @12:01PM (#24083355)
The actual scientific evidence for masks is not as strong as you claim. Please read this analysis by the University of Oxford Centre for Evidence Based Medicine. We need to do more research.

https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/masking-lack-of-evidence-with-...

Just to be clear, I am not advising anyone to avoid wearing a mask.

Re:Facebook Fired Employee Who Collected Evidence of Potenti... by dekhn on Friday August 07, 2020 @12:11PM (#24083481)
Strictly speaking we're both in violent agreement that really high quality studies are required for the evidence to be solid.

Please note that I did not say there was scientific evidence for masks, but that wearing masks is good is the mainstream scientific position (which changed only very recently).

I read your article. It's pretty limited in its analysis. I'm going by this popular science article from my alma mater (I have a PhD in biophysics), https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/417906/still-confused-abou...

The article you cited doesn't include a number of the articles my article mentions (http://files.fast.ai/papers/masks_lit_review.pdf, https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.1377/hlthaff.2020.00818 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/342198360_Associati..., https://www.cmaj.ca/content/192/15/E410, https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/06/17/masks-sal...,

More importantly- this is a situation where we don't have unambiguous data, but the mainstream position is consistent with the current data and reasonable thinking about disease prevention.

Re:Facebook Fired Employee Who Collected Evidence of Potenti... by newacct583 on Friday August 07, 2020 @02:24PM (#24084962)
The discussion upthread was about people arguing that masks aren't needed or don't work. This is review paper cautioning that the science behind mask effectiveness isn't as settled as we'd want. It shows good evidence for medical PPE being effective, but it found one study that showed cloth masks were actually harmful, and it points out that the applicability to covid isn't as strong as we'd like either.

There's nothing in there that should serve to argue against the general consensus that masks are a good idea. They are, within the bounds of the evidence at hand, effective in the opinions of most experts. And that includes the authors of the paper you wrote.

Re:Facebook Fired Employee Who Collected Evidence of Potenti... by thu2111 on Sunday August 09, 2020 @03:25PM (#24102143)
What general consensus?

You just wrote yourself that there is no consensus, even amongst scientists who have been extremely willing to recommend extreme measures from the start. The review paper showed the science isn't settled: that's literally the definition of no consensus.

The concept of scientific consensus is horribly abused. Look at the reply to my post. It's not about anything concrete, it just asserts everyone agrees with the poster. That's a lie, and obviously so. Yet simply by claiming it's true, some will believe it, as it's an unfalsifiable statement. Indeed you yourself believe it, even whilst reading a paper that says there's no consensus.